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    Stairs beyond cut in Phases

    Working on project that requires phases. I have an existing stair who's lines beyond cut needs to be display as dashed. At present when phases is to the new the lines are solid, when no phases filter on it stair graphics are fine.
    I am aware of phases graphic overrides and filters, but there doesn't seem to be a way to control these elements.
    Has anyone had this problem and found a work around.

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    Hi Redmonki,

    If I understand you correctly, you have an existing set of stairs, modelled in the existing phase. When displayed the the New Construction phase they display as solid lines above the cut level in the floor plan.

    It would be handy if you could post a screen shot of the issue as I have never had this problem. For me, no matter which phase an object is created in it will respond to the cut level as expected. (ie stair elements above (with the exception of railings) - dashed lines - stair element below - solid line)

    Cheers,

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    Existing Override Linework

    The default OOTB settings for Existing override settings are preset to show all projection & cut linework as solid

    In your phases dialog, goto Graphic Overrides, and set the linework for existing to not have this override (see image below)

    Stairs beyond cut in Phases-override.jpg
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    Thanks for feed back. Unfortunately I've left out some pertinent info, the over ride settings are necessary as all existing work needs to be in cyan. (Singapore submission requirements dictate existing works in cyan). I guess I was looking for another 'magical' over ride setting that would allow me to over ride sub elements. Ie turn the now solid cyan beyond cut line into dashed dark grey lines while keeping the general existing over ride setting on. That's getting a bit complicated I guess. My work around is to simply region over it.... ouch.

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    Just use the linework tool. It works on all the different line segments even the lines split at break line.

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    Thanks Mark. Do you mean draw over the beyond Cut Line portion of the stairs with detailed lines?

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    Phase override settings are applied last so they can't then be overridden except with the linework tool

    So you are printing in color? And you need other existing linework to be solid when it should be hidden?

    A workaround could be a 2nd overlaying view on the print sheet with the phase filter turned off

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmonki View Post
    Thanks Mark. Do you mean draw over the beyond Cut Line portion of the stairs with detailed lines?
    Select the linework tool "Modify menu\ linework" (see image).
    Select the line type you want to use from drop down menu. (if the one you want is not there "magenta-dashed" just make it in "Line styles")
    Then click on the line you want to change
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    Fantastic guys! Got it.
    Yeah Singapore has an online planning / technical department submission system which is file based. It has been solely ACAD based till just recently where they have opened up to allowing BIM revit/archiCAD file submissions. They have keep certain standards in place though, some of those being the colours of elements within phases, which obviously makes things a little tricky.
    This is big help, cheers.

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