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    TONS.

    1. Better detailing at stone and brick facades where there are complex returns and protrusions at inserts/storefronts/other elements. Modeled better has a ton of benefits: Less fakery in large scale details, better looking model for presentations, better coordination.

    2. WAY less wall types, although most people dont realize it. WAY less. Every backup wall type X every facade finish style, versus just having the 2 sets of walls. Plus if its part of the backup wall types, then when you have protrusions at inserts (something we do a lot), you suddenly need another seperate finish wall type anyway, OR you start hodgepodging it by including it in the insert, as either a part of a curtain wall (which means you need a ghetto panel, or a finish wall type anyway), or you have it as just part of the insert family as a material, which eliminates the potential of using system object schedules for the quantities, and leaves you ONLY with material take offs, assuming the families all have the same finish materials as the wall types.

    3. Allows us to show interior finishes in certain views and not in others. So i can show the ceramic tile thickness in all my bathrooms when showing room area plans, details, elevations, etc. But they dont HAVE to show in 1/16" plans, which look like mud. But i CAN show them (selectively) something one wall assembly wont let us do without a ghetto workaround of making lines white, which ONLY works in some cases in revit.

    4. Better data tracking, and quantity take offs, since they can have seperate assembly codes, seperate object level data, etc. Our precon and construction teams leverage this immensely (but the reason is very secondary to the architectural ones). We can also make better use of them seperated, in Synchro, for construction scheduling.

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    And with that the possibility to filter on Structural elements alone. If you create different Walls for all parts you can select which has structural bearing and filter on it. Comes in very handy with creating structural floor plans, elevations, etc.

    I usually decide on a project base whether to use multiple-layered walls or draw each layer as a single wall.

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    okay, is it me or does the "edit" button doesn't work??? Tried to Edit my post to give an actual answer to the first question. Funny thing: it's still thinking about it while I type this message.

    Anyway: phased materials. I use Aarons approach. If it's new: draw a new wall (or a new Finish as a wall). Works better for me. If it needs to be quick and dirty (you know, deadlines and stuff): copy the wall to clipboard, demolish the original, paste in Phase new and apply new materials as desired...

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