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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlowery View Post
    The owner of my company does not want anyone to steal the families we have been creating. He has requested that I "explode" them before we share the model. Is there any way to do this? I thought about exporting to AutoCAD and then back to Revit. I also thought about exporting to Navisworks and then sharing that but I don't feel that either of these will be acceptable for this project.

    Is there any way to do this?
    First to answer your question, I know of no way to do this that wouldn't take you longer then it took to create the content in the first place and would render the content not usable for the intent you built it in the first place.

    What you could do is use an add in or dynamo script to creates some sort of signature in your content and copy write. IE make a parameter that you put in each family with your companies name and some sort of text saying this content was created for this project blah, blah, blah or whatever your boss wants it to say. Pump that into all your families and then either the "thief" has to delete that stuff or you will see it come back to you one day. Or do what the MFR content does and create a bunch of materials with your companies name in them and subcategories with your name in them, so when the content gets loaded into other projects that stuff goes with it and everyone at the firm will see it and be like why does this material from your company's name keep showing up, or this subcategory called your a theif...

    But I guarantee even that is probably a waste of time for the one or two families you may have created that someone wants to take and use on their project.
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    isnt there software to water mark familier? The truth is, anyone who can make a family can probably RE yours and make one better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profoxcg View Post
    isnt there software to water mark familier? The truth is, anyone who can make a family can probably RE yours and make one better.
    Graitec has a watermark manager for families as part of their Revit Power-Pack. I've never used it, so can't say how effective it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profoxcg View Post
    isnt there software to water mark familier? The truth is, anyone who can make a family can probably RE yours and make one better.
    BIMsign can watermark RFA and RVT files - see https://www.cadstudio.cz/bimsign

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    but does that make sense, and in theory how does that work or prevent anyone from "stealing" and using your families.

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    The fundamental problem most do not appreciate is that there really isn't a way to stop those dedicated to IP theft.
    You can slow them down, inconvenience them, and so on, but, usually, all you really do is make your own workflow worse/more complicated/harder.

    One of the PenTester forums (Blackhat or DefCon, I forget which) had a classic quote on this topic. Supposed you wanted to park your Lambo on the curb, and not have it stolen. Well, if you poured 4" of concrete around the wheels, it would be harder to steal. But not stop a determined thief. And, you'd have a hard time cruising the main drag in the thing.

    Brute force will outwit most "protection" schema.

    And, as a manager, you really have to worry more about your own people finding and marketing your valuable stuff (if it has any out of context) than end users or consultants.

    The content I can get for free is a mixed bag. Some of it is quite good. If so, I use it and leave all the trademarks and hte like in it--credit where credit is due. But, rather a lot of it basically I'll use it once or twice and just engineer my own Family that better serves my needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapnMac View Post
    you really have to worry more about your own people.

    Agreed!

    I've seen content from other companies being used in a number of firms. It's kind of hard to miss when they don't even remove the previous firms information. I'm sure that it was ex employees that brought it with them, too.

    When content is shared in the course of a project, it is usually not with companies of the same discipline. Why would an MEP firm want custom architectural or structural families?

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    One way I've seen people done this would be put in parameters with gibberish word or foreign language. This way the family parameter is so complex, it won't function without user understanding it. Often most users just give up trying to figure out how the family works.

    However I encourage sharing content, that way your content are famous within the industries and force those companies to have to seek you out to make the family works. Think of it like open up to another business opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scourdx
    ...One way I've seen people done this would be put in parameters with gibberish word or foreign language...
    Like Wifi SSID naming... "Penny Get Your Own Wifi"
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    ^lol

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