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    host door in curtain panel family?

    I am modeling a curtain wall for a project that all require a specific dimension for each panel (50’); I am using a curtain system to place the panel with 50’ set as my grid. Then I am placing the panel into each one.

    The panels have doors, louvers etc modeled in them so switching them is easy. However does anyone have a good strategy to have doors, windows etc show up when tagged? I normally just place a curtain wall door in the model, however with a door in a family it is much harder to control? Let me know if you have any good resources on that?

    Am I going about this wrong? For everything that has a door should I treat as an a-typical situation and just model it in the file and just use the panel for repeating panels?

    thanks in advance!

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    You can replace the Curtain Wall Panel with a standard Revit Wall and then place your Door within that Wall
    Just make sure they Wall thickness matches your Mullion (or Door Frame)

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    awesome; okay.

    why not build the door into the curtain wall panel?

    Im also going to construct a material take off schedule in curtain wall and need to calculate the area of opaque vs vision glass. I understand that revit only calculates the total area, and the way to do this is the use the volume instead with the thickness of the material? Is this a good method or does anyone have a tutorial/website that has a better method to find area on curtain panels that are composed of various parts?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Well, if your intent is to have the doors/louvers/windows built in like a unitized system and it's one trade doing all of it... I'd tag the panels and create an elevation of each panel that's tagged. Then I'd dimension everything off the elevation.

    I've always had doors separate - wall hosted and curtain wall hosted.
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    the reason that they are separate is so that they can tag and show up on a schedule? if i want to swap all (50'x10') panels out on the project, is making it all one panel (with mullions and doors built in) the smart way to do it? or should i just build a curtain wall system and swap it out that way? thanks!

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    take a look at Aaron's (now old) doors: https://www.revitforum.org/architect...-v4-r2015.html

    He nests the panel into a CW family and they work great in a storefront / curtain wall situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deepblue02101996 View Post
    the reason that they are separate is so that they can tag and show up on a schedule? if i want to swap all (50'x10') panels out on the project, is making it all one panel (with mullions and doors built in) the smart way to do it? or should i just build a curtain wall system and swap it out that way? thanks!
    Yes, they are separate so I can schedule the doors.

    It depends on the intent (stick built vs unitized) How do you want to convey the information? Where are you in the project (Schematic, Design, Working Drawings)?
    I think there are pros and cons to each method.

    I have mostly done CW with grids and swapped out each individual panel. I did that on a 17 storey tower and it almost made me want to build a larger floor to floor panel that had the spandrel and vision glass all incorporated, but I didn't. I'd prefer to manage a couple glass types, spandrels etc than try to manage all the various nuances that could be found in a larger panel.

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