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    Hey BIM Managers - How do you Deploy Revit Updates?

    Not sure if this is the right Sub-forum, but i would love to hear what other people are doing for this.

    We all know how vital it is for everyone within a project to be working on the same build of Revit - so typically, firms try to push out Revit Updates to everyone throughout the firm all at once. (while simultaneously updating their install deployments to include the latest updates as part of the install.

    I work at a large firm, with multiple office locations - but where people from multiple locations may work on the same project. So i need to get the entire firm updated at the same time.

    I have tied pushing out Revit Updates a few different ways, over the past couple years, but I am certain there has to be a better way that what i have tried.
    I used to just send out Urgent emails with clickable links to update.exe files on our network, and told people to email me when they completed the install. I would then have to send harassing emails to anyone who didn't reply - assuming they hadn't installed the update. I have also tried putting it on Project Managers to go around and make sure each person on their project has installed the update before starting work on a given morning (since its their projects that will get corrupted if they don't follow up) - but diligence levels among PMs varies. Lately, our IT crew has become more concerned with cyber security, and are limiting people's ability to install things on their machines. So, most recently, I tried sending out the update via PDQ Deploy. However, despite 2 days of testing ahead of time, that approach failed spectacularly and has left me searching for a better way.

    What are you folks doing in your firms?

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    1. I dont EVER update the deployments to have the updates. I always keep them separate, and always run them in succession. Adding updates in to deployments sucks, if you (for some reason) need to get access to the original state of a machine that didnt have the update.

    2. I dont ever recommend letting anyone other than IT, have rights to install software. And IT should do the entire companies update at once, in off hours. I was that way even five years ago, but ESPECIALLY now, there is zero chance i would let ANYONE outside of IT have admin rights. I have three different clients that have been hit (and hit hard) by ransomware.

    3. I use Pragmatic Praxis deployment tools. www.PragmaticPraxis.com. The owner 9s a member here (Gordon Price). Ive also seen SCCM and PDQ used, but PDQ and SCCM (honestly) cant do everything Px Tools can. PDQ can come close if you enable all of the Heartbeat features, but even with that its still a task based system, which i REALLY dont like, as it means much more setup work when new versions come out, or to build in updates, and such. It also requires a Server Side to run, while Px Tools does not. Px also makes it REALLY simple for IT, as long as the Design Technology team writes the definitions for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    I use Pragmatic Praxis deployment tools. www.PragmaticPraxis.com. The owner 9s a member here (Gordon Price). Ive also seen SCCM and PDQ used, but PDQ and SCCM (honestly) cant do everything Px Tools can. PDQ can come close if you enable all of the Heartbeat features, but even with that its still a task based system, which i REALLY dont like, as it means much more setup work when new versions come out, or to build in updates, and such. It also requires a Server Side to run, while Px Tools does not. Px also makes it REALLY simple for IT, as long as the Design Technology team writes the definitions for them.
    the problem we run into with PDQ Deploy is that the Autodesk Installs seem to all includes a "Close" button at the end (once the install is complete)- and until you hit the close button, PDQ Deploy does not recognize that the install step completed, and will report a failure code that is no different form one you get if something actually goes wrong with the install. So even if everything installed properly, we need to go around and verify person by person to ensure the deployment was successful on every machine.

    does Pragmatic Praxis get around this somehow?

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    Thats incorrect, im sorry to say. The Adsk deployments have a variety of silent modes, including TWO that do not present a UI at all. You just need to tell them to run silently, and use the right command to launch them.

    That is true even if you arent using PDQ or Px. I have every deployment here so that even if i run them manually, there is no OK button.

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    we have tried running both the /q (silent install) and /qb install modifiers. and while in neither case is their a visible close button... it sure seems like in the background, the install still thinks there is one. and so at the end, it just looks like the installs are all hanging...

    to get around this, we tried running a second simultaneous deployment that forces reboots after 2 hours since that is more than enough time to run the installs... and sure, the installs almost always all go through, but the report back from pdq deploy says the autodesk deployment failed (though the 'reboot' deployment was a screaming success).

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    something is clearly wrong on our end - if you have been able to make it work without the problem we are running into.... but for the life of me i don't know what it is. even if we use pdq to run a deployment on a single machine - run the .exe file, with the /q setting, it fails to complete. i can see the moment the install finishes by monitoring the network and cpu utilization through task manager.... and it always just hangs there.

    btw, it did the same thing when i tried running the install through powershell in silent mode.

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    Yeah, dont know what to tell you. Even when i wasnt using Px Tools, ive had Silent Deployments for as long as ive been deploying Autodesk software. They work fine here, and everywhere else ive been.

    :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Yeah, dont know what to tell you. Even when i wasnt using Px Tools, ive had Silent Deployments for as long as ive been deploying Autodesk software. They work fine here, and everywhere else ive been.
    sidenote: which install switch are you using for the 2019 Revit updates? I can't get any of them to run silently I actually spent an hour or two last week going through the different exe modes and nadda...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cellophane View Post
    sidenote: which install switch are you using for the 2019 Revit updates? I can't get any of them to run silently I actually spent an hour or two last week going through the different exe modes and nadda...
    I've got them all running silently. But I'm out of the office this week. I'll take a peek when I get back of Gordon doesn't answer.

    It does change, update to update, because someone is an *******.

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    This is the line I've got in my batch file
    start /WAIT \\bwbr.com\echelon\software\Autodesk2019\AEC_Colle ction\RevitServicePacks\Autodesk_Revit_2019_2.exe /passive

    It's not completely silent. It shows a progress bar.
    But no "OK, I'm done" button at the end.

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