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    Scope Boxes and View Range in plan view.

    I am working on a utilidor project that has multiple angles and levels of piping. I utilized Scope Boxes and Dependent Views to present large scale views of the utilidor where there are piping branches (manholes) and to present these in nice, perpendicular views on the plan sheets. Looks nice!

    My issue is, I want to show in plan view the piping in the upper half of the utilidor and a separate plan view of the piping in the lower half of the utilidor. Since I already had the scope boxes around each of these areas, I thought I could just copy the scope box and have one for the "upper" half and one for the "lower" half. But both plan views of the "upper" and "lower" scope boxes show the piping through both scope boxes. Looking at the tutorials, scope boxes can cut 3D views in the 'z' axis, but I can't figure out how to use the scope box to cut the 'z' direction in plan views.

    Sure, I could use the View Range within each plan view to accomplish this but I was hoping to use the grips on the scope boxes to visually dial in where the separation occurs. The utilidor slopes as well so it is not as easy to set two universal Levels and use the View Range.

    Unless Revit figured out a way to have a sloped Level (oxymoron) or allow Reference Planes to be used as the basis for View Ranges?

    Am I missing a setting to make scope boxes cut in the 'z' direction? Ideas on how to make this work?

    Project file is based on Revit 2018.

    Thanks for the help!

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    Can't you just adjust your Scope boxes in a 3D View set to an "Elevation" (front View)?

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    I may be misunderstanding the comment. I can adjust the scope boxes. Here is the section view of the utilidor showing the "upper" and "lower" scope boxes.



    Problem is that when I look at each dependent plan view, which is defined by the scope box, I see all 4 pipes. It should, theoretically, only show the two pipes located within that scope box.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Scope Boxes and View Range in plan view.-utilidor-section-image.jpg  

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    You're looking at the Scope Boxes in a Plan View
    Try opening one of those Section Views & see where the Scope boxes are in the Z axis

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    The limits of scope boxes does not define the assigned view’s vertical limits (view range), only the x and y boundaries. You’ll need to create independent views of the tunnel with different view ranges to show the top half separate from the bottom half. Assign the scope box to set the same limits in plan view.

    Dependent views will have the same view range.
    Vertical size of scope box controls which views (levels) they show up in.
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    Thank you kubsix! I believe you have the answer there. Scope boxes just can't do that yet (or at least Revit 2018) and the vertical view within Floor Plans are instead only adjustable through the View Range.

    Further working the model, I discovered your comment that all of the Dependent Views are locked into the View Range of the original plan. I instead created separate "Upper" and "Lower" Floor Plans (not Dependent Views) for each manhole, set the X & Y plan layout to the Scope Box for that manhole to straighten it out for the sheet presentation, and then set the View Range independently for each manhole Floor Plan.

    Setting the pipe elevations using dimensions off of annotation lines drawn along the bottom of the utilidor (rather than having 7 different Levels within a 5 ft range). If we could only get Levels to be at a slope, or be able to set pipe/duct offsets based on a reference plane, it would be a lot easier. But hey, it wasn't too long ago that you couldn't slope waste, vent, and storm water piping in Revit. So until an architect has this need, I'll just make do with the work-around.
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