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    Do you still provide presentation elevations?

    A quiet couple of days before contractors return to work (I assume) on Monday has let me try out a few visual features in Revit 2019.

    A senior planning officer recently asked if I could portray 'stonework' with more solid colour in my elevations - so I tried out Revit's graphic tweaks and wondered in this age of 3D rendered models do others still do presentation elevations for planners, clients, the public etc. - or is it all 3D now?

    In Revit 2019 I like the Depth Cueing, loathe the 'squiggle-alike' feature, am not sure about the Ambient Shadows, and the Photo exposure seems not to offer much benefit.
    Anti-aliasing and removing lines works quite well and regular shadows/lighting are quite reasonable with a bit of work on the settings.

    On the attached drawing (screenshot of a pdf) using Realistic Visual Style in the elevation views I could not get the glass material to have an image - or rather it worked just once then would never work again. I must try it on other projects as I cannot figure out why it doesn't work.

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    Absolutely Love it. Thanks for reminding me how fun drawing composition can be and that we now have tools to do it in revit.
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    I would like to do this more. But, seems like all my time is focused on production of Construction Documents...

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    Very nice Will. Lovely work. Have a play with ambient shadows, they can really help too. Actually, on stonework like this it would be very interesting to see how ambient works. But possibly not as informatively as when used in 3d.

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    Naturally. My opinion would be that if your CD model can't produce a decent presentation elevation without some other software, you've got some work to do on your model. Revit output doesn't lie, right?

    These are from a couple years back when I was working at a design firm. I think this was R2014.
    Consistent colors, shadows + ambient shadows, gradient background for the sky, and a little bit of line work to make things pop.

    Use Nested Families for all your exterior glass and create Filters by Floor to make your windows fade up into the sky

    Do you still provide presentation elevations?-elevations.jpg

    Do you still provide presentation elevations?-fenwoodroad.jpg

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    Great images. Typically I would use photo shop to get that look.

    Could you expand on your technique of using nested families and filters?
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    Sure. I'll use a more recent example on a slightly taller building.

    All your exterior glazing assemblies use the same Shared/Nested family, representing the actual insulated glazing unit.
    This is basically just a simple extrusion with Shared Instance parameters for Height-Width-Thickness.
    The IGU gets loaded into all your various ribbon windows, punched windows, curtain wall, glass doors, etc.



    Make a Filter for each level, and you can create a View Template with only Filters checked.
    Come up with your stepped gradient of RGB values (try an online color pallet generator, or play with Opacity and Layers in Photoshop, or even Bluebeam)



    Same View Template gets applied to 3D views and Elevations.



    Here's our DD elevation with the View Template flipping from "Documentation" to "Presentation" :



    There is probably a much cleaner way to accomplish this with Dynamo.
    I bet you could rig it up to completely skip the Filter creation and Color selection process, which honestly takes the most time to tweak. Someone more patient than me could probably create a Node to pick Top and Bottom color, number of Color Steps, and Override-Category-in-View based on Elevation. Any takers?

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    Gave the gradient thing a little go, and it is pretty cool indeed.
    Had to change the glass to something other then a curtain panel (did a nested generic model on a curtain panel in this case), in order to be able to filter on Level. The bit on the lower part of the building is 1 curtain wall, so all the glass registers to be on the second floor. So if I want to use this trick I will have to cut that by floor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willsud View Post
    do others still do presentation elevations for planners, clients, the public etc.
    Sadly, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aristide View Post
    There is probably a much cleaner way to accomplish this with Dynamo.
    Even quicker, get yourself BIMOne's ColorSplasher and aim at the Z value.
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