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Thread: Why doesn't RVT have the ability to synchronize grids between views?

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    Angry Why doesn't RVT have the ability to synchronize grids between views?

    Yet another feature missing from this software. (or is it?) The ability to synchronize/ coordinate grids between views.
    The fact that it is necessary to adjust grids in every single view is unacceptable IMO. Hopefully somehow someway ADesk will start working on these sorts of things. Until then I guess I'll have to click an extra 500 times per project. And yes, I have more complaints then compliments for this software.


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    Quote Originally Posted by erratic View Post
    Yet another feature missing from this software. (or is it?) The ability to synchronize/ coordinate grids between views.
    The fact that it is necessary to adjust grids in every single view is unacceptable IMO. Hopefully somehow someway ADesk will start working on these sorts of things. Until then I guess I'll have to click an extra 500 times per project. And yes, I have more complaints then compliments for this software.


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    might scope boxes be of help to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erratic View Post
    Yet another feature missing from this software. (or is it?) The ability to synchronize/ coordinate grids between views.
    The fact that it is necessary to adjust grids in every single view is unacceptable IMO. Hopefully somehow someway ADesk will start working on these sorts of things. Until then I guess I'll have to click an extra 500 times per project. And yes, I have more complaints then compliments for this software.


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    So what you are saying is you never learned how to use the command called Propagate Extents? I imagine id be grumpy and irritable too, if i didnt know how to use the software and then blamed the developers.

    Note: That feature has existed since i started using Revit... In 2006.

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    There is no permanent connection between the look of the datum in multiple views. If you modify the datum again, you must use Propagate Extents again. Propagate Extents does not affect Model (3D) extents.
    Note: Active view and target views must be un-cropped prior to propagating extents. 2d extents of a datum cannot be propagated either to or from a view when the 3d extents of the datum are outside the active crop region of the view or to a datum with a scope box applied.

    Pretty useless feature when you have 4 buildings in 1 file and everything is cropped. I could go on and on regarding issues with the software & its developers.
    Unfortunately none of that helps me and neither does your tip but thanks for the try. Retirement is my best solution.

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    As soon as you engage the 2D toggle, you own it. Revit has no way to know which views should be the same as this one. It requires us to tell it.

    Simplistic answer, don't engage the 2D toggle as much as and if possible.

    In the old days we used an Xref for grids. There was no changing them anywhere... if special grids were needed the xref was turned of and grids drawn in place (and yes, "clever" layer mgmt too). Not much different ultimately if you consider picks and clicks and task ownership. As for Revit, the Propagate Extents tool can only interact with views whose crop region has not been engaged. When it is engaged the extents are different or can be. These are all subtle lurking evil that the developers wrestle with whenever they create something.
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    Scope Boxes might work for you.
    Opinions vary about this, but maybe try it for yourself.
    May I ask:
    If you have been using Revit for 8-9 years, have you not run into this before, or tried scope boxes? They work for Levels, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erratic View Post
    There is no permanent connection between the look of the datum in multiple views. If you modify the datum again, you must use Propagate Extents again. Propagate Extents does not affect Model (3D) extents.
    Well, thats true. Then again, i prefer to adjust my grids so they work, and then leave them be. Not readjust them every day like a Designer adjusting their turtleneck. How many times in a week are you adjusting freaking grids? DOing a project RIGHT NOW with Multiple dependent views, scope boxes, etc... Adjusted the grids once, maybe twice, and propagated. Havent looked back. :shrug:

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    Note: Active view and target views must be un-cropped prior to propagating extents. 2d extents of a datum cannot be propagated either to or from a view when the 3d extents of the datum are outside the active crop region of the view or to a datum with a scope box applied.


    Yes and no. Technically, thats accurate. But there is nothing stopping you from temporarily uncropping and unscopeboxing a view, propagating, and re-scope boxing and recropping. Because i do it on every project. I mean, you might not LIKE it, but its certainly faster than doing them all manually, and then complaining about it on the internet.

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    Pretty useless feature when you have 4 buildings in 1 file and everything is cropped. I could go on and on regarding issues with the software & its developers.
    Unfortunately none of that helps me and neither does your tip but thanks for the try. Retirement is my best solution.


    Well we definitely agree: Retirement is certainly your best option.
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    Have a look for Revitea on exchange apps. It's free and works well on levels and grids.

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    Scope boxes are pretty handy but to use it to set gridlines in all your views is not recommended. They are great for partial views. You can set your areas with scope boxes, assign the appropriate scope box through the instance properties to your views, and all of the partial plans, building sections, and elevations will snap to the scope boxes. I use the crop box to set my gridlines and levels. As long as the crop box is inside the 3D extents and you haven't messed with it, the gridlines will switch to 2D, and the grid heads will snap to a distance, set by Autodesk, from the crop box. If they don't change, someone has manualy set them to 2D. Reset them to crop box extents through the right-click menu. I do wish Autodesk would allow us to set the distance from the crop box and the head.

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    Scope Boxes for Grids and Levels is intended to contend with multiple buildings in a single model. This way datum for one building can be isolated...most of the time. It's harder to accomplish when the buildings are all quite close to each other.
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