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    UK Focused Question - BIM manager Vs BIM Coordinator

    Hi all,
    If you were asked to describe the difference between BIM manager and BIM Coordinator what would you say. Its obviously a difficult question and the lines are quite blurry but would appreciate any feedback or links to explain the roles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joewallace View Post
    Hi all,
    If you were asked to describe the difference between BIM manager and BIM Coordinator what would you say. Its obviously a difficult question and the lines are quite blurry but would appreciate any feedback or links to explain the roles.
    Thanks
    Curious if the UK is any different, but in my (US West Coast) experience a BIM Coordinator is usually a project level role, coordinating BIM processes between the members of the broader Project Team. It's predominantly a technical role, in support of project leadership. A BIM Manager is a firm level leadership role, overseeing firm wide BIM procedures. In general every project has a BIM Coordinator (in role, if not in title) while a firm probably only has one BIM Manager, or perhaps a BIM manager for each office and one overall BIM Manager.
    Chain of command sheds some light as well. A BIM Coordinator reports directly to project leadership, but is also overseen by the BIM Manager. The BIM Manager might report to the IT Manager, or Operations Manager, or Business Manager, or Principal with technical portfolio. Even when not made official, a BIM Manager has (or should have) the kind of responsibility that usually goes with a Senior Associate designation. A BIM Coordinator doesn't even need to be a junior associate.

    As I said, curious how that compares with actual practice in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post
    Curious if the UK is any different, but in my (US West Coast) experience a BIM Coordinator is usually a project level role, coordinating BIM processes between the members of the broader Project Team. It's predominantly a technical role, in support of project leadership. A BIM Manager is a firm level leadership role, overseeing firm wide BIM procedures. In general every project has a BIM Coordinator (in role, if not in title) while a firm probably only has one BIM Manager, or perhaps a BIM manager for each office and one overall BIM Manager.
    Chain of command sheds some light as well. A BIM Coordinator reports directly to project leadership, but is also overseen by the BIM Manager. The BIM Manager might report to the IT Manager, or Operations Manager, or Business Manager, or Principal with technical portfolio. Even when not made official, a BIM Manager has (or should have) the kind of responsibility that usually goes with a Senior Associate designation. A BIM Coordinator doesn't even need to be a junior associate......
    That basically sums it up for here in New Zealand as well: Just for smaller firms the BIM Manager and BIM Coordinator is likely to be the same person!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post
    Curious if the UK is any different, but in my (US West Coast) experience a BIM Coordinator is usually a project level role, coordinating BIM processes between the members of the broader Project Team. It's predominantly a technical role, in support of project leadership. A BIM Manager is a firm level leadership role, overseeing firm wide BIM procedures. In general every project has a BIM Coordinator (in role, if not in title) while a firm probably only has one BIM Manager, or perhaps a BIM manager for each office and one overall BIM Manager.
    Chain of command sheds some light as well. A BIM Coordinator reports directly to project leadership, but is also overseen by the BIM Manager. The BIM Manager might report to the IT Manager, or Operations Manager, or Business Manager, or Principal with technical portfolio. Even when not made official, a BIM Manager has (or should have) the kind of responsibility that usually goes with a Senior Associate designation. A BIM Coordinator doesn't even need to be a junior associate.

    As I said, curious how that compares with actual practice in the UK.
    I think that goes for the UK too.

    The same is confirmed when googling the roles and responsibilities of both names [from google.co.uk]:

    BIM Manager: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bi...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    BIM Coordinator: https://www.fosterandpartnerscareers...017-120043.pdf

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    Thanks all, pretty much confirmed what I was thinking. Much appreciated

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    I usually grab from lots of references I come across & compose a OneNote Page to convey my thoughts, conclusion, & things I also concur with as it's TMI to keep track of & or stay "Intellectually Consistent" in Thought/Life so my reason of documenting my progression/growth in BIM in OneNote (Evernote or whatever tickles your Fancy). I recommend anyone to have a "BIM Journal" nicely categorized & sorted. Early on back in 2004 starting my architectural career after I decided my construction days are over I would catch myself asking what did I conclude with, this or that...when someone or I would ask a question in a particular process/best practice. It'll save you from getting lost in the many Rabbit Holes. Always have a "Journal" (as I would do in Construction), just like the Revit Journal files. Just that makes a Big Difference.

    Just as you Prepare, Prepare, Prepare; Document, Document, Document. We're all used to that, but only in or Deliverables, lol.

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    There was a class on this last BiLT NA... They should be two different positions, but for many of us it's just a different hat we wear every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPwuzhere View Post
    There was a class on this last BiLT NA... They should be two different positions, but for many of us it's just a different hat we wear every day.
    You only have 2 different hats each day?! lucky...
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    This caught my eye as my daughter started work at a large Landscape practice in London last week and yesterday met the 'BIM Manager' - apparently he said, 'New, eh? Well, I think we need to get you into Revit'.

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    https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk...M_co-ordinator
    Building Information Modelling (BIM) is a broad term that describes the process of creating and managing digital information about a built asset such as building, bridge, highway, tunnel, and so on.

    As an integrated data-led process enabling teams to manage information about a project, the co-ordination of the building information model, or parts of it, is an important responsibility. BIM co-ordinators can therefore be key members of the project team, helping establish and manage BIM project workflows and assisting in the effective resolution of issues that arise.

    However, the standards that establish Level 2 BIM do not refer to the role of BIM co-ordinator. This is partly because they are written from the perspective of the government as a construction client. Standards such as PAS 1192-2 refer to an Information Manager, as a procedural gate-keeper, policing the common data environment to ensure that it follows the agreed protocols and that data is secure. However, this information manager has no design responsibility and no responsibility for quality, clash detection, data conversion, or model co-ordination - as these are supplier responsibilities.

    As a result, the term BIM co-ordinator is a relatively ambiguous one, which may refer to a co-ordinator (or several co-ordinators) within a project or organisation, whose responsibilities could include:

    • Developing and maintaining BIM protocols and BIM Execution Plans and other documentation.
    • Ensuring protocols are adhered to.
    • Managing data sets.
    • Co-ordinating stakeholders in terms of their role within the BIM process.
    • Ensuring the accuracy of models and datasets by establishing quality control procedures.
    • Clash detection and clash avoidance.
    • Preparing BIM co-ordination programmes and progress reports.
    • Providing training and assistance to the project team and explaining procedures and standards.
    • Sourcing and maintaining model content.
    • Where there are shared data and inter-model relationships, making sure these are recorded and monitored.
    • Co-ordinating data modelling and management.
    • Liaising with the design team and client.
    • Coordinating the handover of information at project milestones.



    https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/BIM_manager

    Building Information Modelling (BIM) is a broad term that describes the process of creating and managing digital information about a built asset such as buildings, bridges, tunnels, and so on.

    The standards that establish Level 2 BIM, do not refer specifically to the role of 'BIM manager'. PAS 1192-2 for example refers to an 'Information Manager', 'Task Team Managers' and 'Task Information Managers', but not a BIM manager.

    As a result, the term 'BIM manager' is a relatively ambiguous one, with several possible meanings, but referring in very broad terms to an individual responsible for the implementation and management of BIM during the design, construction and handover stages of a project. A BIM manager, may also be involved in change management, in terms of introducing digital technologies into project workflows, however, precise tasks and responsibilities will vary by the type of company they are working for, be it client, contractor, consultant or supplier.

    Day to day activities are also likely to vary by project as well as by the stage in a change process or project that they are working on.

    This role differs from that of the 'Information Manager', which is a procedural gate-keeper, policing the common data environment to ensure that it follows the agreed protocol and that the data is secure. For more information, see Information manager.

    As yet, there is no recognised route to becoming a BIM manager, although it is expected that they will come from a technology background and will have experience developing policy and implementing change processes. They should have a good knowledge of the Level 2 standards and how to satisfy their requirements, the ability to develop strategies and to manage complex teams in the collaborative preparation of project information.

    Professionals with a background in BIM, CAD and document control are increasingly up-skilling to become BIM managers.

    As the ‘digital revolution’ continues to influence the construction industry, particularly the development and then adoption of BIM Levels 3 and 4, the role of a BIM manager is likely to evolve to meet changing needs.
    Last edited by Karalon10; November 8th, 2018 at 02:18 PM.

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