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    can i make 2d symbols as a funiture or component inside revit ?

    Hi every one i missed the forum a lot although this frustration i still have desire to back to the programme do not know why but that always happen with me my question can i make 2d symbols as a funiture or component inside revit if yes please guide me how and thanks
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    look up "symbolic lines" in the help. you draw them just like drafting lines and they only show up as 2d symbols in the view you draw them in.

    also, look up "punctuation." it will make your questions a lot easier to read.

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    Actually, 2D furniture is the standard in our office... Since we don't show furniture in elevations or 3D its all symbolic lines...

    You create a furniture family, just use the symbolic lines (furniture)...that way they are visible in all the views (level based)

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    Either way, (3d or 2d), I would create families for them and not just draw them in the project. But that's just me...

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    start with a "furniture" family template.
    You certainly should do them using families - its just as quick and a whole lot better, they are at least in the correct category

    I suggest you might as well do a masking region instead so it hides the floor surface patterns. If you draw your furniture as follows, you can put Chairs under Tables etc- heres the basic procedure, (but you'll need to learn the jargon!)

    1. Start a new Family, make sure its family category is "Furniture"
    Setup a refplane in elevation for the "fake" height of the component. Name it in its properties
    2. Go to your plan, set the workplane to be the plane you just created, draw the masking region on it - just the outer most lines, then draw some symbolic lines for any internal lines you want

    load into the project. Now you have "2d" furniture families, but they hide floor patterns/shades etc below them, and if you have the "fake" height correct, you can put furniture partly under other pieces of furniture and they will hide (ie: If the refplane as per 1. is, say 450mm high in elevation for a chair, and 700mm high for a table, the chair will be partly obscured by the table)

    I would call this the bear minimum, once you get used to it, it doesnt hardly take any more time to do then just "lines", but yet at least you are using Revit more like Revit and less like CAD!
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    Oh and just to add about using a furniture family.....You can tag them and schedule them

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    This is a great way of making 2d furniture families and I have just started a new library following exactly what you describe.
    But, can someone please explain why we can't have filled regions in the family editor??? How can I possibly add a fill to the masking region?
    I guess only if I create an extrudion and an appropriate material, but the question still remains... Why isn't there a filled region button in the family editor?
    I think this has been a wish for a long time.

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    good question and I have no idea...BUT you can nest a detail component into your furniture (or whatever) family (ie: create a detail family with filled region etc etc and load into your furniture family, if your furniture family is parametric, then make your detail compeont parametric and link parameters through)
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    Yes, this is what I can imagine too... going from 2nd to 3rd floor, through the basement!
    Thanks anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTB View Post
    Yes, this is what I can imagine too... going from 2nd to 3rd floor, through the basement!
    Thanks anyway....
    Yep - you got it!

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