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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post
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    Stop bringing that up....it's as bad as Autocad xref's....

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    Can I address the Elephant in the room? "Not Doing Yearly Upgrades"! How much life could be made much easier if everyone on the team would bite the Nerf Bullet. I get it, sometimes users model lousy & best practices aren't followed, thus the Upgrading can become a Red-Headed Step Child for you or the same for a Disciple in the same/similar boat/situation. Sometimes it's Client driven because of the budgeting & or IT mgmt strategies, but I never allow a Client to say to "never upgrade". I've done projects in 20 market sectors & not one had issues or issues I couldn't resolve with some manageable extra elbow grease doing year-round upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cftrevizo View Post
    Can I address the Elephant in the room? "Not Doing Yearly Upgrades"! .
    We are still on 2017

    I'm working on the 2018 template and will be installing 2018.3 soon for myself and another person since we are using C4R, um BIM 360 Design, for an airport remodel.
    Very tempted to skip 2018 on all the other machines and let everyone else enjoy 2019.

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    I am lingering on 2018 because of the lack of an ArchVision plugin for 2019 but just had an email saying they hope to post it this week or at latest next week (sounds like emails I send to clients )

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    Quote Originally Posted by cftrevizo View Post
    Can I address the Elephant in the room? "Not Doing Yearly Upgrades"! How much life could be made much easier if everyone on the team would bite the Nerf Bullet. I get it, sometimes users model lousy & best practices aren't followed, thus the Upgrading can become a Red-Headed Step Child for you or the same for a Disciple in the same/similar boat/situation. Sometimes it's Client driven because of the budgeting & or IT mgmt strategies, but I never allow a Client to say to "never upgrade". I've done projects in 20 market sectors & not one had issues or issues I couldn't resolve with some manageable extra elbow grease doing year-round upgrades.
    ..."Ya' Killin' Me Smalls!"....
    Listen... I believe in upgrading, and if *I* am the project team or Project Manager, MOST of the time, im electing to Upgrade. BUT, this is the SECOND time this week, ive seen someone complaining about firms and teams that dont or wont upgrade, mid project. So: Sure. Lets REALLY address the Elephants in the room, shall we?

    And keep in mind, in GENERAL i am a big proponent of upgrading. But its not a HARD AND FAST RULE or a MANDATE, since there are REAL WORLD issues to discuss. Such as:

    1. 2016 > 2017: Text Formatting Changed, Annotations Didnt. 2017 > 2018: Annotations Formatting Changed. This means that ANY upgrades in between 2016-2018, are going to require an actual page turn through a project, and an individual review of EVERY detail that has Text in it, for quality control. And before you say *it shouldnt change that much,* i have a Drafted Detail file that has THREE pages of details. It took 4 HOURS to fix. So... Just to make sure i have this on record:

    Are you saying youll pay your consultants for the add-service to spend those hours reviewing the entire project, so you can upgrade the model?

    2. Are you also responsible for your consultants IT departments, with respect to: When new software gets rolled out, how it gets deployed, how it gets installed, how it gets tested for conflicts with other applications in the office, and any liabilities of project downtime related to conflicts with softwares on machines?

    If you arent willing to take all that on, then you should be ASKING your Consultants if upgrading is a POSSIBILITY. Now look: If they say *yes we have it installed, no we will not upgrade," now you have something to talk about. But keep in mind: We are a Forum of (mostly) BIM experts and/or advocates, meaning we generally have some pull with IT. Thats not the case with all BIM users out there, and (frankly) many project teams DONT get a choice, about when they get new software. I have a client whos Architects CANT get every years version, as IT declares they will only install every other year- and firm management fully supports IT on that matter.

    Speaking in generalizations sucks, by the way: That firm (that only installs every other year), does GREAT architectural work, AND great BIM work. They just have to do it in software thats a year old.

    3. Who's eating the time to download/detach/save-as/re-upload all of the models and linked context models, if the project is hosted in BIM 360? The project im working on at Old Parkland, took a full 8 hour day to upload the models the first time, and thats without the time to upgrade them. So sure: Lets assume i have an automation routine that is badass, and i get them all upgraded to 2019 instantaneously (or overnight while unbillable). Who's paying for the full day to get all the models back on the hosted environment, and get all the Linked Files reloaded?

    Frankly, the un-willingness to upgrade (in my experience, which isnt limited) very rarely has ANYTHING to do with "best practices arent followed." Its one of three things:

    1. Teams refusing to do it because they simply arent educated about it (not super valid reasons)
    2. Inability to do it because of logistics/corporate policies/IT departments (all very valid reasons)
    3. Items like drastic feature changes that mean serious time commitments for upgrading (like text changes)

    If its the first thing? Sure, have that conversation, and educate those peeps. But if its any of the last two, i really wish "BIM Experts" would stop acting like you are ONLY part of the hip crew if you are on the latest version. It makes us all look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post
    That being said, if we want real earth shattering and game changing features we need to start submitting and voting up accordingly. Site tools for instance only has 25 votes while a negligible double click renaming views feature gets over 400 votes and is implemented.
    Completely agree with the voting. However, the new revit roadmap only includes two top voted ideas (Revit Roadmap Update - April 2018 - Revit Official Blog) so it seems like they're back to old habits, trying to capture new markets rather than building on strengthening the product for the existing user base. Not surprising given it Autodesk is a public company, but disappointing nonetheless.

    I wonder what idea you are referring to with the "double click renaming views feature that got 400 votes". I'm not seeing that on the Revit Ideas platform? There's a relatively popular idea on topography here: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit.../idi-p/6703779
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    And expect to eat a ton of tosh. Seriously? We're letting the parasites drive the industry now? Talk about tail-wags-dog. #SMH
    This is the reality chief. You're definitely not living on a another planet (unless you are and they have great WiFi) so I can't see how you don't know this. And BTW, I'm not advocating their existence, I'm merely using the content of their adverts to highlight the reality on the ground. I'm up north and have friends in London, Bristol etc and the picture (Revit experience being essential) is the same everywhere (apart from the Lake District, but which is still beautiful as way of compensation ). Revit is THE big ticket. And as more time passes and I swim slightly further through the Revit learning pool of treacle the happier I am that that's the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    Your wife/wife's firm are pushing well beyond the norm by using ANY digital platform. Trust me.
    I'm not sure where you're going with this or what your point is..........any clues?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew P View Post
    Heading back to the topic, for me personally, Revit 2019 is a solid release. But more so I’m happy to see that the development is steered by the users input which is a good thing. That being said, if we want real earth shattering and game changing features we need to start submitting and voting up accordingly. Site tools for instance only has 25 votes while a negligible double click renaming views feature gets over 400 votes and is implemented.
    There is also the issue of what can be implemented easily and what would break the program on a fundamental level if it were tried. Double Click to rename is programmatically simple to do (in theory) and doesn't really affect the objects in the model. Fixing the behavior of floors, ceilings & roofs to be consistent (multiple slopes, sweep behavior) is a huge issue that could potentially destroy an upgraded project, even if a new project would work fine. In that case it might not matter how many votes it gets if it isn't a practical change.

    Autodesk also has a pretty robust beta & customer feedback program ranging from full beta testing to 30 minute sessions with the developers to look at specific features. If you don't like how something is, get involved.
    https://beta.autodesk.com
    https://beta.autodesk.com/faq/
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellophane View Post
    There is also the issue of what can be implemented easily and what would break the program on a fundamental level if it were tried.
    ^ This ^
    I have to shake my head every time I see someone comment "[feature X] is already in AutoCAD, and Autodesk owns both programs. Should be simple to add it to Revit!!!!!!"
    Obviously written by someone who has never done programming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    ^ This ^
    I have to shake my head every time I see someone comment "[feature X] is already in AutoCAD, and Autodesk owns both programs. Should be simple to add it to Revit!!!!!!"
    Revit needs right click "symbol insert" capability like Autocad.... (Yes, I am currently using AutoBAD)
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