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    grids and levels as a workset or a design option??

    ok oracles, we are having a steering group meeting and the discussion is of whether grids and levels should be a workset or a design option? what is the consensus on here? are there pros and cons for both ways? generally we are using revit for single building multi-storey commercial and resi projects from stage 4 onwards when the grid is usually set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robp View Post
    ok oracles, we are having a steering group meeting and the discussion is of whether grids and levels should be a workset or a design option? what is the consensus on here? are there pros and cons for both ways? generally we are using revit for single building multi-storey commercial and resi projects from stage 4 onwards when the grid is usually set.
    They do entirely different things.

    If the project is workshared at all, the grids have to go on SOME workset. Doesn't mean they have to be on their own, but it doesn't hurt.

    Design options for grids are handy if you want to "lock the down" so people don't accidentally move them. But I find the practice annoying.

    The thing is (my professional opinion) if you're talking about EITHER as a visibility control, you're going down the wrong path. You simply don't need to use worksets for visibility. And if someone is talking about DESIGN OPTIONS for visibility... Punch them.

    Sent from my Phablet. Please excuse typos... and bad ideas.

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    Thanks twiceroadsfool, it isnt a visibility thing more of a "lock down" thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    And if someone is talking about DESIGN OPTIONS for visibility... Punch them.
    Meh.

    Can't add much more to Aaron's advice (note I use DOs for viz. tricks a lot, but that's a different thread) - but I certainly advocate a workset for ALL datums (that's grids, levels and any other site/project-defining constraint, element, or natty widget, etc).

    For viz. control... EVERYTHING is about filters (we use 5 different level types and 2 different grid types so have it all fairly cemented in our workflows)

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    One of my favorite sayings: What's the question behind the question?
    What are you trying to accomplish with either Worksets or Design Options?
    If you want to lock down the Grids, DOs are probably the way to go.
    If you're trying to control Visibility with a Workset, I'm with Aaron. Bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robp View Post
    Thanks twiceroadsfool, it isnt a visibility thing more of a "lock down" thing.
    Pin them and when you walk the room keep a keen eye out for users who don't have the five Xs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    If you want to lock down the Grids, DOs are probably the way to go.
    Even when well-managed and assigned to Scope Boxes, "the DO-veil" is an utter nuisance for 2D/3D-extent-switching/dragging in views. Trust me, I/we tried... and will never do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    Can't add much more to Aaron's advice (note I use DOs for viz. tricks a lot, but that's a different thread)
    *sits back and waits for punch-up

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    Keep it simple. Worksets and run a Dynamo graph regularly to pin them. Assign one person as the grid and level person to add/delete/adjust.

    Levels and grids could be in there own model, but you still have to copy them into your project, monitoring is up to you. At least if things do move, your more than likely to have one version of the truth to fall back on. I don't bother with a separate model for smaller projects... I just carry a big stick for the small projects (may or may not have rusty nails on the end).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheinaranta View Post
    Levels and grids could be in there own model, but you still have to copy them into your project,
    Provides a very nice 'baseline' and a nice n' light coordination/setup model - so definitely worthy of consideration for more involved projects.
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