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    details in 2d

    Hello,

    Since last year I've modelled my projects 100% with revit. I marked that the 2d-details are almost engineered in autocad and not in revit.
    I already engineer the 2d-details for my last project in revit.

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    How are the 2d-details (scale 1:5) engineered for you? 2d-details in revit or autocad. Why this choice?


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    peter smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter smith View Post
    Hello,

    Since last year I've modelled my projects 100% with revit. I marked that the 2d-details are almost engineered in autocad and not in revit.
    I already engineer the 2d-details for my last project in revit.

    Question:
    How are the 2d-details (scale 1:5) engineered for you? 2d-details in revit or autocad. Why this choice?


    kind regards,
    peter smith
    in my first couple of years of using Revit I did my details in Acad and linked them into Revit models. Big PITA IMO. For the last 6+ years my detailing is 100% Revit. I very rarely even open AutoCAD these days. Acad has it's place in the Revit world: for those that don't know any better

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    Everything in Revit.
    At first the details did not look that good for me even though they were correct, but after a while, once you get the hang of subcategories and line weights they look much better. And with some filters to make some of the hatches look better, you will end up having great details. The trick for me is to use as much of the live model data as you can, NEVER hide in view any of it, use tags instead of text all the time so you can easier change text in all your details and come up with some smart Detail Items.
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    Use native Revit content for your details
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    Do I engineer correct if I engineer the 2d details with very much imported specific alu extruded profiles from autocad? These profiles are the essential for our details, because I engineer for the facade supplier. The position, dimension and another data I take form the revit model.

    The doubt is because I spend more time per detail in revit than in autocad. however, I admit that I meanwhile build my detail item library (2d) during the engineering. because I don't have any (revit) detail item in my library.


    Is it normal that spending more time per detail for revit than for autocad for same detail?


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    Hard to say if a detail takes more time in Revit. Most of the data on my details are from my 3D model and it take up minutes to get to a nice looking detail. It does however take time to make the model right. In the old CAD days you would make a detail and a drawing on a larger scale and those did not always match up. These days you make them as one so there is not an easy way to say if every one part in the process take more or less time, you need to look at the overall project time.

    I made a few (generic) facade detail items myself that I can paste over my 3D data on my details. Everything is parameter driven and it has all the needed types so I can quickly choose which profile I want to use. So once you have build up your library you should be able to make details quicker.



    But there is a facade guy around here (Dave from a few posts above as far as I know) so he might be able to tell you what he does.
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    Using the native revit detail components is a huge improvement in speed and accuracy once you become comfortable using them.

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    Once you accept (and explain to those preoccupied with) the practice showing profile-extrusion minutia is but a product of sub-1:1 detail-accuracy afforded by CAD-software, and not-at-all-essential to the process of construction (assembly), then you will quickly be won round by detailing in Revit.

    If (however) you are milling said profiles FROM said details (unlikely) then you're not going to be using Revit anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Deurloo View Post
    Hard to say if a detail takes more time in Revit. Most of the data on my details are from my 3D model and it take up minutes to get to a nice looking detail. It does however take time to make the model right. In the old CAD days you would make a detail and a drawing on a larger scale and those did not always match up. These days you make them as one so there is not an easy way to say if every one part in the process take more or less time, you need to look at the overall project time.

    I made a few (generic) facade detail items myself that I can paste over my 3D data on my details. Everything is parameter driven and it has all the needed types so I can quickly choose which profile I want to use. So once you have build up your library you should be able to make details quicker.



    But there is a facade guy around here (Dave from a few posts above as far as I know) so he might be able to tell you what he does.
    HEY! you're missing the pressure plate fasteners and thermal breaks! Nicely done otherwise!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    you're missing the
    Free redline markups available now at RevitForum! Come one come all!
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