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    Quote Originally Posted by BLothian View Post
    That's because its basically MicroStation with some extra stuff bolted on. I loved MicroStation for non-BIM draughting/modelling but by holy cow is AECOsim Building Designer horrible.
    100% agree with that. we still use microstation for 2d drafting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott D Davis View Post
    I'm not really sure what the problem is with fillets in Formit?
    While I have admittedly not used FormIt much (maybe an hour total), I ran into the same issue as BLothian with filleting 3 sides of a shape. So either there is some trick that you used that isn't apparent, or the functionality of the tool is off. Part of the reason people gravitate towards tools like SketchUp is that they are easy to pick up and use - you don't need weird workarounds or sacrificial geometry to get a result that should be simple to work out...

    https://www.screencast.com/t/3F6BSiKRx
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    So, how is Shapr3d at creating a set of CDs? Creating a schedule? Linking in a Structural model?
    The conceptual design phase is equally as important as the phase where your knocking out a set of CD's. You can't document what you can’t model. Ideally you want to be able to start your design in a BIM software where you have the option to schedule masses for early cost estimates or anything of that nature. Unfortunately, Autodesk doesn’t provide any of these tools in Revit nor haven’t they developed any separate tool for this either. Consequently, designers use Rhino/Grasshopper or Sketchup and this was even more “painfully” evident where pretty much all classes and Autodesk University where about the use of Rhino and Grasshopper for conceptual design, analysis and even fabrication, while Dynamo was merely used to get geometry into Revit for the final documentation. Autodesk seems to only be focused documentation and more on construction which somehow defeats the purpose of BIM and we are heading the same disconnect era as the AutoCAD period.

    Ironically, Autodesk does seem to push (conceptual) design in all their other industries portfolio software. Just take a look at Fusion 360, Inventor, Alias etc. which all have one of the best sets of modelling tools you can find on the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertobatista View Post
    The conceptual design phase is equally as important as the phase where your knocking out a set of CD's.
    Please see Pg 8 (bottom two images) & Pg 9 (bottom image) of: http://www.tonyfretton.com/redhouse/pdf/redhouse.pdf

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    I need to seriously type up a nice long rant, that i can save somewhere on my computer, and call it the *response for when threads devolved in to whining about things Revit cant do, and we hear from the same old crowd about how they cant hack it in Revit.....*

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston
    Please see Pg 8 (bottom two images) & Pg 9 (bottom image) of: http://www.tonyfretton.com/redhouse/pdf/redhouse.pdf
    All of the drawings look like they were done in Excel or Word...real world end result, still nice. I love the what I assume are tongue in cheek 3d sketches!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    I need to seriously type up a nice long rant, that i can save somewhere on my computer, and call it the *response for when threads devolved in to whining about things Revit cant do, and we hear from the same old crowd about how they cant hack it in Revit.....*
    Please do!!

    Do you mind if copy paste your text and send it to all the firms who presented at AU 2017? I'm practically dying to send it to the speakers of this world renowned firm who presented the following slide.


    Now if anyone can present a similar slide at Apple's keynote saying to use the Samsung Galaxy S8 for snapchatting while minimizes the use of their own Iphone X for making phones call would really make my day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertobatista View Post
    I'm practically dying to send it to the speakers
    Do you really think they would care about what you have to share?

    Why not try sending them a CV instead?

    When will you learn Roberto? There is a line...

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    actually the topic started rather interestingly and theoretical. It got me imagining. But oh no, it doesn't last long before we are all behind the shelter shed comparing our tools.
    I recently attended a bim night that had a speaker discussing a 3d model that is written in such a way that any discipline can extra their required geometry and parameters from it and yet maintain the integrity of that one either generic or proprietary product. This is something i thought might help smooth the way between platforms and hemispheres and professions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    All of the drawings look like they were done in Excel or Word...real world end result, still nice. I love the what I assume are tongue in cheek 3d sketches!
    I believe it's known as "Real" or "High" Architecture

    I remain unsold by any of it personally. Aside from the complete absence of the haptic; the pimped, finger-print-magnet handrail is all the evidence I need that the client clearly never cleans their own home, nor the Architect cares for such things. Still, good work if you can get it. I guess I'm just jealous.

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