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    Groups and Room Calculation Points

    Is there a way to get door room calculation points to recognize an instance room number within a group?

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    I don't understand your question. If you are under the impression that Room Calculation Points will alter a door Mark parameter, they don't. They only determine which direction the door swings TO. If you are referring to a door schedule reporting To/From information, they do seem (for me) to work properly when the doors are part of groups.

    Have I still missed your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    I don't understand your question. If you are under the impression that Room Calculation Points will alter a door Mark parameter, they don't. They only determine which direction the door swings TO. If you are referring to a door schedule reporting To/From information, they do seem (for me) to work properly when the doors are part of groups.

    Have I still missed your point?
    I think that my question is actually confusing, so I will provide specific information. Our current project has 99 rooms that are grouped according to type, (King, Queen, ADA, left and right) Each group includes all repeating elements including doors except for floors. The 'To Room Number' reports the correct room, however, I have multiple doors per room that require a specific letter appended to the reported number. Just curious if there was a simple way of accomplishing this.

    Further explanation: I would like to change the To Room Number to 'DOOR NO' in my schedule to report every door, therefore, eliminating the need for the door 'Mark', but I'm not seeing a way to do this with multiple doors per room that require specific door numbers.
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    They don't give us any access to To Room Number (to any of the To/From room data)...it is calculated/derived from the model conditions. The Mark parameter is reserved for what we traditionally call a door number. If I understand you the entry door might be numbered 110 and the bathroom door inside the room should be 110-A or 110A. A closet door would be 110B and so on.

    The door renumbering tools out there provide some logical way to do this, to the Mark parameter based on the room information. The trouble there is that the room may be bathroom or closet and have a number of its own? If the bathroom number is 110A then it would be easy for the door to inherit that value too using those apps.

    Some firms refer to such interior doors by Type so a bathroom door is an A and the closet is a B. All A doors for every floor and every room is the same door. Entry doors are numbered uniquely for obvious reasons. They could be by Type too and a Signage parameter could provide a unique number to tie it to the room number.

    Discussing doors with a owner/contractor ultimately begins with, "which room?" and then "oh the bathroom door" as opposed to "Which door? "Oh, door number 110A." That seems like a plainer language conversation to me...even though it's probably easier to write about a door in a punch list by writing "door 110A needs its handset replaced."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    They don't give us any access to To Room Number (to any of the To/From room data)...it is calculated/derived from the model conditions. The Mark parameter is reserved for what we traditionally call a door number. If I understand you the entry door might be numbered 110 and the bathroom door inside the room should be 110-A or 110A. A closet door would be 110B and so on.

    The door renumbering tools out there provide some logical way to do this, to the Mark parameter based on the room information. The trouble there is that the room may be bathroom or closet and have a number of its own? If the bathroom number is 110A then it would be easy for the door to inherit that value too using those apps.

    Some firms refer to such interior doors by Type so a bathroom door is an A and the closet is a B. All A doors for every floor and every room is the same door. Entry doors are numbered uniquely for obvious reasons. They could be by Type too and a Signage parameter could provide a unique number to tie it to the room number.

    Discussing doors with a owner/contractor ultimately begins with, "which room?" and then "oh the bathroom door" as opposed to "Which door? "Oh, door number 110A." That seems like a plainer language conversation to me...even though it's probably easier to write about a door in a punch list by writing "door 110A needs its handset replaced."
    Yes, your understanding of what I am asking is spot on. The method you describe by some firms makes a lot of sense and would be very easy to implement for this project.
    Thanks Steve!

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    I have a Dynamo graph that grabs the To Room information, sees how many doors there are, and numbers them 101a, 101b, 101c, based on that.

    It's also hard coded to filter out nested doors based on my library structure, so you'd have to edit that part.

    You are welcome to it, but I'm on vacay til Tuesday morning. If I plug my laptop in to internet before then, I'll upload it. It renumbers the parents AND the shared nested components so you can tell which room all items belong to.

    Sent from my Phablet. Please excuse typos... and bad ideas.

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    I like that last part in particular.


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