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    Hello,

    I am comfortable with Revit but have recently got back into. I have been on autocad and inventor for past year. In Revit, I know that the text scale changes with the view scale. I nvr really had to plot things while using Revit until now and worry about the annotations. In Autocad I use annotative because I always want my font at 3/32. In Revit, I have my text at 3/32 but the size changes per view so I am guessing that it plots not at 3/32 if its not 1:1. Does that mean I have to make a duplicated text and scale it up for it to plot the sheets texts at 3/32? So like 1/8":1'-0" view scale, I need text to look like 3/32 on paper which is the current text assigned. Do I have to make a (3/32)*96 type of text still?

    Any feedback would be great!

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    The size changes when the view changes scale BECAUSE it works the same as Annotative text in AutoCAD. No need to make different types.

    3/32 is always 3/32.

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    Just looks to different. In ACAD you change the scale and the model changes but text stays the same just moves around it looks like. Revit everything shrinks it looks like. Just not very use to it, getting sick of swapping around platforms.

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    I'm not misunderstanding. I used AutoCAD and annotative text styles for years. They work identically. The only difference is you aren't telling it to refresh and seeing all the different scales at once.

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    i think its just the non ps / ms flopping around thing. well, i do not have to worry then. you will prob be hearing a lot from me. starting a full time revit position. i know most of basics and some but there is so much going on in that revit it is amazing. i learn new things every time i use it. years ago i learned about the view range and thought it made sense. well there is much more to it. you could take an entire class on view range and vg.

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    I disagree in that annotative text in autocad in fact you create multiple positions for your text placement depending on scale.
    When I change scale in revit my text size changes but I can not configure multiple positions depending on scale, I must adjust the position manually each time I change scale. There are pros and cons to both approaches so Im not saying one is better than the other, but the two are not identical in how they operate.
    Its more important in revit to decide on a view scale before you go putting all your text in place for présentations.
    In either scenario you are placing the text in a new position when the scale changes, just that in revit I cant "save" a position that I create for a certain scale.

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    If you’re changing view scale and moving annotations more than once per view, you’re doing it wrong. One view per scale/annotation position.


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    I agree with Greg.
    My first thought when I was reading Karalon's Bjenk8100's post was "Why are you changing scale?"
    I suspect that the reason you're struggling with this is that you're trying to use the same View for multiple purposes.
    If you want to show the same area at a different scale, you should Duplicate the View and change the Scale of the new View.
    Using "Duplicate with Detailing" (I do kind of wish they had named it "Duplicate with Annotations") will replicate all of the Text and Dimensions to the new View. Once you change the scale, THEN you can move the Text (or even better, Tags) wherever they fit at the new scale without worrying about their location on the original View.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    I agree with Greg.
    My first thought when I was reading Karalon's post was "Why are you changing scale?"
    I suspect that the reason you're struggling with this is that you're trying to use the same View for multiple purposes.
    If you want to show the same area at a different scale, you should Duplicate the View and change the Scale of the new View.
    Using "Duplicate with Detailing" (I do kind of wish they had named it "Duplicate with Annotations") will replicate all of the Text and Dimensions to the new View. Once you change the scale, THEN you can move the Text (or even better, Tags) wherever they fit at the new scale without worrying about their location on the original View.
    Not my post, but yeah I agree with you. Duplicate the view with détails and then reposition your existing text.
    There is no "annotative" text option in revit, not with the same functionality as autocad has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karalon10 View Post
    I disagree in that annotative text in autocad in fact you create multiple positions for your text placement depending on scale.
    When I change scale in revit my text size changes but I can not configure multiple positions depending on scale, I must adjust the position manually each time I change scale. There are pros and cons to both approaches so Im not saying one is better than the other, but the two are not identical in how they operate.
    Its more important in revit to decide on a view scale before you go putting all your text in place for présentations.
    In either scenario you are placing the text in a new position when the scale changes, just that in revit I cant "save" a position that I create for a certain scale.
    To be clear i meant they work identically in that the scale changes automatically to keep the text the same scale on the paper, so you dont need Text-96, Text-48, Text-24, and so on. I wasnt even thinking about the *repositioning* aspect, as its never even been something i wanted to do in Revit. :shrug:

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