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    Beginner - P1000 Unistrut

    Recently jumped into the deep end without arm bands!

    Working with an existing Revit concept model and I'm detailing up the containment supports.
    I'm trying to put in the unistrut frames to support the ladder rack and trunking.
    I have loaded the manufacturers family files for p1000 channel. (attached)
    I can get the channel in on the horizontal plane and revolve it around the x axis.
    However I am unable to get the unistrut to run in the vertical plane.
    I would be grateful if anyone could point me in the right direction for achieving this.
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    Usually you can not rotate a family on the z-axes. Only way you would be able to use this family vertical is to create a new family that is vertical. Not sure what it is exactly, but maybe the type of family is not the right one. For example a duct or a structural frame (which this is not) can be placed both horizontal and vertical (or at an angle).

    That being said, the family you attached is not a very good one. There are parts that show in coarse and medium detail level and one that shows in fine detail level. The fine one does not react to the dimensions you set what so ever. This means that you can change the size of it for you plans and elevations, but when you set the display to fine, for detailing for example you will still see the small 1 5/8" x 1 5/8" size regardless at what size you set the parameters.


    Oh and welcome to the forum btw

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    You will need a separate family for verticals. I would make it from a column template to get the attach feature. You'll notice Structsoft's Metal Wall Framing program does it this way, too. One family for horizontal framing, a separate family for verticals.

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    Thanks for the replies, at least this will stop me going crazy trying to achieve something that cant be done.
    Creating a vertical family is fine (Is there a good tutorial anywhere for creating families correctly?), although this may be an issue as sometimes we have framing at angles of 30,45,60 degrees in the z axis. I'm guessing this would mean a family for each instance.

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    Not necessarily, you could build a family that has an angle parameter in it, so you can tilt when needed, with a parameter instead of by just rotating it (which won't work). There are other options too, line based family for example, but it all depends on what you want/need, how often you are going to use this, how much time you can spend building the families and your skills. But as you jumped into the deep end this might not be the first thing I would try when starting to build families.

    I also think that if the manufacturer has Revit families available and the one you uploaded before is what they offer, they really need to re-think if they wanna offer them at all, but that's not something you can do anything about I guess.

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