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    Complex wall corner junction

    I have a complex wall junction detail at a corner, where zinc cladding meets stone rainscreen cladding with a chunky recess detail, right at a wall corner. See the first image of the plan detail that I am trying to replicate in Revit. At the design development stage of the project I ignored the junction detail and just had the two wall types meet at a butt joint, but now I need to raise the level of detail.

    Complex wall corner junction-wall-01.jpg

    I believe that my best approach would be to treat the underlying insulation as two wall types (two different thickness shown pink on my markup); treat the zinc (blue) and rainscreen (orange) as two other types so that I can form the recess geometry. Does anyone think there is a better option?

    Complex wall corner junction-wall-02.jpg

    The grey RC wall is modelled in the structural engineer's Revit model,
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    So is this the best way in revit to tackle a complex wall junction? (say for example when part of the wall separates to go around a column, or when 3 or 4 wall types join.. revit needs an option to be able to make a special endcap, to be able to edit each individual element of the wall when it comes to a complex junction)
    What then is annoying is having separation lines in each wall element - hiding line in view works but you have to do this in all views (you then need a hide line in all views option)

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    I would just model the whole thing as a single wall type, and then use either a
    1] Wall Sweep/recess to rebate it
    2] Wall Hosted Void, and then turn on "Wrap with Inserts" in wall type
    ...or something along those lines

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    Thanks Dwane
    Thats interesting and i will look into your ideas..
    To better explain i have drawn an example.. (As the original post i feel it has to be divided into separate wall elements then void cut into wall)
    Complex wall corner junction-wall-column.jpg

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    Thanks Dwayne, but I discounted both options as not generating sufficiently accurate geometry for the wall layers. The problems being that both the air void and insulation thicknesses vary and the two adjacent wall finishes need to lap in a particular fashion.

    We are also generating 3D rendered views from our model, so we need the junction to be reasonably accurate.

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    Thanks Dwayne, but I discounted both options as not generating sufficiently accurate geometry for the wall layers. The problems being that both the air void and insulation thicknesses vary and the two adjacent wall finishes need to lap in a particular fashion.

    We are also generating 3D rendered views from our model, so we need the junction to be reasonably accurate.

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    I think i have it! you can divide walls into parts, then remove the bits you don`t want, then add extra walling as required (ie around a column)
    Please see...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3JeYe9s7Po

    So going back to your original comment John, this may help part of your complex corner junction, but not the reveal. I would do it as you have suggested - seperating the elements seems to be the answer for anything complex.. but then you have lines to be hidden.. (which are a pain to have to hide in view on every view you see this detail) (there needs to be a hide line in all views button)

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