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    Question Line Based Generic Family-End Points Problem

    I asked this question over at Adesk Forum, and Alfredo provided and answer, but his solution soesn't seem ot be working. Here's the problem. I created a Line-Based Generic Family for a custom Fascia. I need to provide breaks in it at certain points so that it's "Joints" aline with the Alum Comp Panels above and below. I split the fascia at various points, but when I go back to space the ends of each to 1/2", they SNAP to the endpoint of the adjacent line. Alfredo's suggestion was to make the "line" 'not a reference', which I did, but the lines still snap , leaving 2 pieces, but no joint. Anyone else want to take a stab at this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaloney View Post
    I asked this question over at Adesk Forum, and Alfredo provided and answer, but his solution soesn't seem ot be working. Here's the problem. I created a Line-Based Generic Family for a custom Fascia. I need to provide breaks in it at certain points so that it's "Joints" aline with the Alum Comp Panels above and below. I split the fascia at various points, but when I go back to space the ends of each to 1/2", they SNAP to the endpoint of the adjacent line. Alfredo's suggestion was to make the "line" 'not a reference', which I did, but the lines still snap , leaving 2 pieces, but no joint. Anyone else want to take a stab at this?

    Mike
    when you move the fascia in line with the one next to it select Disjoin on the Options Bar

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    Dave that Doesn't work either.........when I ick the grip to adust the end point, I do not get the option on the OB.......infact, when i pick on the object itself anywhere, the only thing on the OB is "move with nearby elements option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMaloney View Post
    Dave that Doesn't work either.........when I ick the grip to adust the end point, I do not get the option on the OB.......infact, when i pick on the object itself anywhere, the only thing on the OB is "move with nearby elements option.

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    use MOVE instead and put it where you want it then the Disjoin option is available. I made a simple line based extrusion here, loaded it in a project, created two instances not close to each other then moved one end to end to the other with a 1/2" gap. Worked fine.

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    Why not just build the half inch joint in to the end of the unit so you dont have to bother? Seems way easier.

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    I'd say: in your family create the possibility to give the fascia an offset to the starting and endpoint. Make these instance parameters so you can flex and align the ends of your fascia and still have your fascia running from center to center.

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    Just a thought and obvious workaround and way off left of center but can you use a thin wall as the fascia (don't know if your profile will lend itself to this option) then use the "split wall with gap tool" actually works well when it comes to aligning to things, draging and moving while maintaining a gap, but does have draw backs when it comes to gutters, but then you could get over that with gutter profile which is offset the fascia thickness.
    If you need raked fascia use two referance planes attach wall top to one and wall base to the other gives you raked wall (fascia) top and bottom
    Like i said way of left center workaround but it works. The "split wall with gap" tool is a highly over looked tool.
    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark b View Post
    Just a thought and obvious workaround and way off left of center but can you use a thin wall as the fascia (don't know if your profile will lend itself to this option) then use the "split wall with gap tool" actually works well when it comes to aligning to things, draging and moving while maintaining a gap, but does have draw backs when it comes to gutters, but then you could get over that with gutter profile which is offset the fascia thickness.
    If you need raked fascia use two referance planes attach wall top to one and wall base to the other gives you raked wall (fascia) top and bottom
    Like i said way of left center workaround but *** works. The "split wall with gap" tool is a highly over looked tool.
    Just a thought.
    Well, this would work, as long as you're not scheduling anything...

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    That's also part of the equation..scheduling the various pieces.........and for takeoffs. See Attached. I did go back (before it I saw the suggeston) about the end parameters, and in some cases that worked and others not so. I ended up removing those, just adding 'strong' references outide of the end points, and that seemed to help stablize them. only once in while do they snap back to each other, but I found that instead of grip dragging the ends, just trimming off the 'gap' at the offending end, they stay put. Go figure. Anyway, thanks for the help.

    Mike
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    Depending on how you created the reveals on you COMP panels.
    But have you tried to split the fascia and then on an elevation (3d cube) use the allign tool to align the edges to the reveals on the panel. If these reveals are constant you can even lock the relation.

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