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    Rotating a view - keeps moving!

    We have a building where it is divided into 3 views. The end portion of the building is at an angle so we have rotated the dependent view. Occasionally, we will go to the view, and there are 2 boxes showing up, but nothing there. We have to move one of the boxes back to where the plan is, then it shows up again.
    Is this a glitch or did I do something wrong?

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    Are you using scope boxes?

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    No scope boxes. I tried using scope boxes but I could only get them to be rectangular, not a polygon shape like we wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake View Post
    No scope boxes. I tried using scope boxes but I could only get them to be rectangular, not a polygon shape like we wanted.
    First of all, I doubt the view is rotating by itself. 99.99999999999% chance that someone is moving/rotating the crop region - by accident or just lack of Revit skill.
    And use scope boxes - it will save you a lot o time in the long run. If there are any changes to the building rotation/size/shape, you'll just have to adjust a few scope boxes - with rotated crop regions you have to go through every view (in a larger project it can be hundreds/thousands of views and a lot of man-hours to change them - I just prefer a raise next year, than 'pretty' drawings ) And if it's really really important to have each view trimmed the way you wanted - don't have the views as dependent - use a combination of scope boxes and detail group with a masking region - again it will save you a lot of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake View Post
    We have a building where it is divided into 3 views. The end portion of the building is at an angle so we have rotated the dependent view. Occasionally, we will go to the view, and there are 2 boxes showing up, but nothing there. We have to move one of the boxes back to where the plan is, then it shows up again.
    Is this a glitch or did I do something wrong?

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    This happened to us as well. I couldn't believe my eyes on print day one of the dependent views rotated to true north. Long story short, if you edit a plan within the parent view with scope boxes associated to child views in some but not others this will happen. I tested it several times and watched it do the same thing over and again. Do your editing in a child view of that area and not in the parent view.

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    Thanks for your input! I will definitely try scope boxes again.
    We use dependent views because we want to make sure the annotations show up everywhere (like where you have an overlap of plans at a matchline). I'm sure there's a better way to do it.
    And, don't even get me started on grid lines! Ugh... they are constantly moving, even though they are 2d....
    I would love some advice on that topic as well.

    I'm interested to hear about a detail group masking region.

    Quote Originally Posted by maciejwypych View Post
    First of all, I doubt the view is rotating by itself. 99.99999999999% chance that someone is moving/rotating the crop region - by accident or just lack of Revit skill.
    And use scope boxes - it will save you a lot o time in the long run. If there are any changes to the building rotation/size/shape, you'll just have to adjust a few scope boxes - with rotated crop regions you have to go through every view (in a larger project it can be hundreds/thousands of views and a lot of man-hours to change them - I just prefer a raise next year, than 'pretty' drawings ) And if it's really really important to have each view trimmed the way you wanted - don't have the views as dependent - use a combination of scope boxes and detail group with a masking region - again it will save you a lot of time.

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    Thanks for the input. I'll make sure to try to do all the work in the parent view and see if that helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Karl View Post
    This happened to us as well. I couldn't believe my eyes on print day one of the dependent views rotated to true north. Long story short, if you edit a plan within the parent view with scope boxes associated to child views in some but not others this will happen. I tested it several times and watched it do the same thing over and again. Do your editing in a child view of that area and not in the parent view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake View Post
    Thanks for the input. I'll make sure to try to do all the work in the parent view and see if that helps.
    That would be, NOT edit in the parent view if you have SOME scope boxes associated with views and not others. Alternatively, get rid of scope boxes or associate ALL of your child views with scope boxes. Then you can edit in the parent view with no issues.

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    To clarify, we don't have scope boxes, just dependent views.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Karl View Post
    That would be, NOT edit in the parent view if you have SOME scope boxes associated with views and not others. Alternatively, get rid of scope boxes or associate ALL of your child views with scope boxes. Then you can edit in the parent view with no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sblake View Post
    To clarify, we don't have scope boxes, just dependent views.
    Gotcha,...I have to clarify as well. The anomaly that I describe only occurs when editing with the Temporary View Properties enabled in the parent view.

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