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    Construction documents need legibility and un-ambiguity. Simple. Marketing needs graphic design and all their fonts. The two uses are seperate. The decisions for either need not cross in need for the other.
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    The real bugger is that Serif fonts are best for reading from a printed page, and Sans Serif fonts are best for being read on a screen. The science behind it all is pretty fascinating.

    https://www.awai.com/2011/10/the-bes...ine-and-email/
    https://medium.freecodecamp.org/how-...s-629a51ad8cce
    https://www.adpushup.com/blog/how-ty...fects-readers/
    https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/03/31...nts-make-feel/

    and then there is the whole WRITE IN ALL CAPS FOR EVERYTHING versus Using Camel Case For Things versus Good old sentence case. I swear I'm going to disable the caps lock key on a few people's computers...
    Last edited by cellophane; February 11th, 2019 at 01:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellophane View Post
    The real bugger is that Serif fonts are best for reading from a printed page, and Sans Serif fonts are best for being read on a screen. The science behind it all is pretty fascinating.

    https://www.awai.com/2011/10/the-bes...ine-and-email/
    https://medium.freecodecamp.org/how-...s-629a51ad8cce
    https://www.adpushup.com/blog/how-ty...fects-readers/
    https://thenextweb.com/dd/2017/03/31...nts-make-feel/

    and then there is the whole WRITE IN ALL CAPS FOR EVERYTHING versus Using Camel Case For Things versus Good old sentence case. I swear I'm going to disable the caps lock key on a few people's computers...
    Oh I Never Knew There Was An Actual Name For Typing Like This... :P
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    Camel Case doesnt actually have spaces, so would be
    "UsingCamelCaseForThings" (which is a pet hate of mine for parameter names).

    If it was like this
    "Using Camel Case for Things" it would be Title Case....

    Saying that, CamelCase sounds better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Page View Post
    Camel Case doesnt actually have spaces, so would be
    "UsingCamelCaseForThings" (which is a pet hate of mine for parameter names).

    If it was like this
    "Using Camel Case for Things" it would be Title Case....

    Saying that, CamelCase sounds better!
    Good point. If you really want to get super nerdy, CamelCase is actually Pascal Case, and camelCase is, well, camel case And_then_there_is_snake_case. I have learned way too much about this today

    https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-di...and-Camel-Case
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_case
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel_case
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    i-like-the-name-of-kebab-case

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter...al_case_styles

    I need to get back to work as well !

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    disable the caps lock key/
    why would you do that/
    we're not e.e. cummings here.

    seriously, though. we had a guy here whose 'style' it was to only use lower case.
    even in his name.
    drove everyone else nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP View Post
    we had a guy here whose 'style' it was to only use lower case.
    even in his name.
    Tool

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveP
    ...we had a guy here whose 'style' it was to only use lower case...
    We must all chose when to make a stand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve_Stafford View Post
    We must all chose when to make a stand...

    Thats really at the heart of the problem, isnt it? When EVERYONE gets to decide what to take a stand for, we end up with stuff like 10,000 architecture firms all thinking they are prolific because of the font they choose.

    I dont deny any firm the right to do as they see fit, but really... Its silly. I get all the logic of a lot of the posts, and (to some extent) i agree with some of it. but even the i/I/l/L/1 (which is THE single most productive part of font discussion), i feel like this is an issue we (as architects) made up:

    Are you really confusing Capital I and lowercase L? Where? Is there a tag type or nomenclature where both capitals and lower cases are used interchangeably? 1 and I and L: Is there a tag type or nomenclature where numbers and letters are used interchangeably? I feel like we MADE this problem up.

    ALL CAPS/TitleCase/ Whatever This Is/ hubris style... For me it isnt even about style, or legibility. Think solely on training, maintenance, review, and drawing markup: ALL CAPS is that much more straightforward, since its a single key click to do it, and VERY easy to identify when its wrong. Getting in to having to PROOFREAD notes because of miscapitalizations? Seriously? And yes, ive seen the research. And of course normal typing is easier to read. But is that the barrier to entry? "If it offers ANY ease of use over other solutions, it MUST be done." Because if thats the case, im about to change the way folks reference sections and details (for ease of finding drawings), and im about to change Spec organization, and im about to change the NOTES THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY SUCK. This is a silly argument. Put the caps lock command on, and call it a day.

    BTW, Kudos to Thommynator (sp?) on actually having a Font workbook, though. Thats pretty awesome.

    BTW, as for the STYLE argument, i DONT think Calibri is all that good looking. But the implementation is Direct, Simple, Straightforwards, requires low effort to accomplish, has no negative side effects, and makes drawings clear and legible, without drama related to: Printing, multiple environments, PDF embedding, fonts shifting at angles, and so on.

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