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    Quote Originally Posted by GMcDowellJr View Post
    I've already gotten plenty of pushback on the width of non-condescended fonts. I've also read that using the width factor can cause some fonts to go screwy in a PDF. I don't approve, personally, of changing a font's width (I don't think most designers would like their work to be altered in a fundamental way) BUT, do you know if Claribi and/or Trebuchet have an issue with printing at a smaller width factor?
    I dont have any idea, because i dont use Width Factors at all. I think they are a horrible idea. I know they resolved a lot of the issues with PDF/export to DWG a coupleof years ago, but i just dont see the point of smashing font tighter and making it awkward to read. So i dont use it.

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    I have used width factor for symbols, Section/Elevation/Callout heads, etc., where it actually aids in readability, so I'll need to test a bit and see if there are any issues. For body text and schedules and the like I certainly think it makes readability more difficult, and my preferred approach there is larger text in sentence case rather than smaller text in hard to read all caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMcDowellJr View Post
    Yes. That's because I'm too lazy to introduce error checking.

    Like you said, it still works so no big. I'm pretty sure it's caused by some styles not having the parameters to change.

    I've been out of the Dynamo world for awhile and haven't seen what Dieckman has been working on. Do you have a link?
    There's some here: http://www.revitforum.org/dynamo-bim...utomation.html

    if you went to RTC you can get the handouts.

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    We use the Swis721 fonts. They seem to load with Revit / ACAD. So everyone who has Autodesk has them. They are like Arial, only a little nicer and there is a full set of condensed / bold / extended fonts in the family.

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    Whatever alternative fonts you choose, it is always worth testing them on every PDF viewer that you can get hold of on as many devices outside your own organisation as you can. I have had issues when using some fonts where the text on drawings vanished completely when viewed on some devices (older iPads for example.) I have also had perfectly good crisp, modern fonts substituted with horrible gothic fonts!

    For what it's worth, this thread has me all nostalgic for the old Letraset sheets, and the Compacta Bold font in particular. Very popular in my student days.

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    FWIW I've used Architxt for years (I think only Aaron mentioned it here, in passing) for blocks of notes and small annotations, with Garamond for formal labels - I find it helpful to keep notes looking different from such as Room Labels or Door numbers etc. when reading A1 drawings covered in notes (I like 'proper' drawing sizes )

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    Lightbulb Certain characters drive the decision ...

    I know I'm late on this discussion ... but wanted to throw out another related thought ... One thing to check on your font choice is: Does the capital "I", lower case "l", and the number "1" all look different ... If you use all caps, the I and l are less important ... If you use sentence case, it is more important ...

    Calibri and Arial are both OK for the "1", but not the I/l ... In a previous firm, I convinced them to use Verdana, because the 3 characters are all distinctly different.

    On a related note ... On all three fonts, the "0" is distinctly narrower than the capital "O".

    I'm in the process of convincing my new firm to move away from ArchTXT and into a more modern text ... Most likely Calibri, because the marketing department has already moved us this direction for our forms, emails, etc. I'm not sure if we are going to stay with all caps or move to sentence case ... in which case I may make the case for Verdana.

    I'm thinking about suggesting Calibri for most text, with certain tags that are more likely to have lower case (such as grid bubbles and door numbers) to be Verdana.
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    Agree with the previous post, but just to add to the Ultimate Font mega thread;

    I recently made some tags that required the tagged code to be the same length with various letter and number characters (For control system diagrams.. Combining several parameters after each other in one tag with labels. I didnt want the text overlapping, having gaps between or breaking out of the symbol border when different letters are used.)

    I decided on a Monospace font for this reason, as all the characters are the same size, and I think Consolas looks nice enough while having distinct letters for I L and 0;

    It may look a bit 'green on black CRT monitor time' but I think for pure practicality I would go with this for a new template.

    I do think using a different (Standard Windows) font is a good idea, just to differentiate your work a little. The horrible Arial annotations is one of the ways that a 'Made in Revit' drawing can be spotted immediately.
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    Dont forget to test your fonts with A360 and/or Collaboration for Revit (C4R)
    A lot of our clients are now using A360 to show their clients the design, and C4R for collaboration, but a lot of custom fonts get substituted, and some of them dont show at all!:
    https://knowledge.autodesk.com/searc...60-Viewer.html
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    Calibri:
    In general very good, but I and l and | are looking too similar.
    Tebuchet MS:
    in general good, but the g and the & looks ugly and I and | are similar
    Tahoma:
    in general very good, but the width is larger than Calibri and Tebuchet MS and l and | looking similar
    Verdana:
    in general very good, but the width is larger than all other above and l and | looking similar
    Consolas Monospace:
    I like the number 0 but l and 1 are too similar and the width is larger than all other above
    ISOCPEUR:
    in general very good, but many special characters are not good
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