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    Thanks, Kyle. You've been very helpful and I appreciate your time.

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    I havent tried this with A360 yet, but i HAVE tried it with Revit Server, and it works like a champ:

    Use the Autodesk eTransmit app, from the project model. It takes a while, but it will pack up ALLLLLLLL of the Linked Models, and dump the whole shebang on their C drive, or Local Server, or wherever you want. I assume it would work with C4R, but i cant validate that yet.

    Its been a massive time saver for archiving models on RS, where you cant navigate with Windows explorer to back them up. Id show that addin to the crusty old architects. Put it in a box with a turtleneck and a Rotring Compass, if it makes them feel better.

    EDIT: +1 on "Thanks to Kyle" for all the awesome info! Not only for the location, but for explaining why we shouldnt muck around with Locals that are hidden for a reason.
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    I'm guessing based on the given location of the Local Cached files that there is not a way to change that location to somewhere else? Different drive?

    That really needs to be a feature, everyone at my company used solid state drives, and we don't currently have TB drives installed so the potential size of this local cache folder could become a problem.

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    Also is it known whether a particular order of initiating a host/linked model(s) should be used?
    I have one test project I started, where I initiated my host model first, and then the linked model. I can see the linked model from A360 project website, but I can't reload the link in my host model. I have not tried to duplicate this process yet.

    A second test project, I initiated the linked model first, and then my host model. For this project, I was able to reload the link from A360.

    Thanks for any help. I'm very excited to be testing out the A360 CFR for my company. We were not looking forward to having to setup a Server and VPN access for all of our remote users. This came at just the right time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkendrick View Post
    I'm guessing based on the given location of the Local Cached files that there is not a way to change that location to somewhere else? Different drive?

    That really needs to be a feature, everyone at my company used solid state drives, and we don't currently have TB drives installed so the potential size of this local cache folder could become a problem.
    Not a feature as of today, but in the backlog. Right now we are focusing on reducing the size of the Collaboration Cache, as well as further optimizing the Revit Accelerator service. The update we're pushing out this week is the first step in the investment we're making in optimization.
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    Also is it known whether a particular order of initiating a host/linked model(s) should be used?
    I have one test project I started, where I initiated my host model first, and then the linked model. I can see the linked model from A360 project website, but I can't reload the link in my host model. I have not tried to duplicate this process yet.

    A second test project, I initiated the linked model first, and then my host model. For this project, I was able to reload the link from A360.
    In order for RVTs to be linked with C4R, they all need to be onboarded into the same A360 Project via Revit. The order doesn't matter in the long-run, but you won't be able to "Reload From" the cloud until you have onboarded the links into the same A360 Project.

    If you really want to know how this all works, take a look at this image, which is a diagram we use to capture the behavior. I'd attach it to the thread, but that URL is a live image of the latest version our our schematic, so I'd rather folks in the future see the latest state.
    Quote Originally Posted by tkendrick View Post
    Thanks for any help. I'm very excited to be testing out the A360 CFR for my company. We were not looking forward to having to setup a Server and VPN access for all of our remote users. This came at just the right time.
    This makes me happy to read, I'll pass this to our team.

    -Kyle

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    This is all useful information, thanks Kyle. But to take a giant step back to make sure I'm setup correctly, with A360 C4R, "local files" (if we are still calling them that) are no longer appended with a username of any kind? Is that correct? I've trained our company to know that username suffix = local file while any other file name is likely the central file. So is there any other way for users to confirm they are not working in a central file but rather a local file in C4R?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmerkel324 View Post
    This is all useful information, thanks Kyle. But to take a giant step back to make sure I'm setup correctly, with A360 C4R, "local files" (if we are still calling them that) are no longer appended with a username of any kind? Is that correct? I've trained our company to know that username suffix = local file while any other file name is likely the central file. So is there any other way for users to confirm they are not working in a central file but rather a local file in C4R?
    Great question. It is simply not possible to work in the central model if the team is using C4R. We wanted to take that whole cognitive overhead from the team members -> everybody always* works on a fresh local set of data. *exception is the edge case if somebody saves changes locally and doesn't SWC. We don't freshen the cache in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    *exception is the edge case if somebody saves changes locally and doesn't SWC. We don't freshen the cache in that case.

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    Kyle,
    Does that mean that a User can Work Offline at a risk like in normal Workshared Projects??

    /Peter

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    Hi Kyle,

    Has C4R been made available in other areas / countries besides NA?
    Would really like to get my hands on it in Australia for some testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptranberg View Post
    Kyle,
    Does that mean that a User can Work Offline at a risk like in normal Workshared Projects??
    /Peter
    Not really "at risk", per se. Teammates can work offline on Elements they already own, but they cannot work at risk on Elements that they do not own.

    -Kyle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Hi Kyle,
    Has C4R been made available in other areas / countries besides NA?
    Would really like to get my hands on it in Australia for some testing.
    You and many others. We've done global performance testing, and determined that the performance was not acceptably fast for us to expand commercial availability. We do have some project teams in many global locations as "scouts", and we will be working with them to evaluate performance improvements we make. Once we get feedback from those teams that the performance is ready for *********, then we'll make the service commercially available.

    -Kyle

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