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    Steelcase families

    Has anyone used the Steelcase families?
    Steelcase Revit Models
    We've been requested by a client to use them on a job.
    Opened a few of them and dug around a bit and they look OK.
    They strike me as a little bit over-modeled, and I'm troubled that they don't use Symbolic Lines in Plan (but do use Masking Regions), but they seem generally pretty well built.

    I know Aaron would ban them from Beck - some have DWG crap imported.
    But not all of them do. I haven't checked them all out, but it looks like they built Revit native "when possible" and use DWG Imports when they have fancy curved surfaces. So at least they are somewhat judicious in using DWGs. But they still use them sometimes.
    I don't particularly feel like opening 1,349 RFAs to figure out which ones are acceptable.

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    I've used one or two of the chairs and they were OK. Furniture is one of the things I will use a downloaded family for more often than not. Lots of complex curves and shapes that I'm not good at making

    For auditing you could probably use the Ideate tool or Exceler8 to pull out which ones are CAD based and which ones are native.

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    I also dont like their library because of how its broken up. THey break it up piece by piece, which is how the pieces are bought out. From a manufacturing POV, that makes sense, and it is the best "data." Does it make sense to make the design team assemble each desk or cubicle in an open office out of twelve families, and then piece it together? Or group it? Or drop it in another family? Not to me. I prefer to have very very flexible but highly detailed generic Work Station content, that can then be called out as those pieces. Just like Doors, Shareds and Nesteds in them so you can get them to look very close.

    Ive had clients ask me to use specific content before. And ive tried hard to educate them on why i have reservations about said content. Ill show them why we use what we use, and how it works and what the differences are. Typically i discover they want us to use it because they just want something accurate. If after all that they still mandate it? Well, welcome to a service profession, lol.
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    Dave,

    I download a handful of those steelcase families. I will say some of them are better than others in the same group. But I will never use them as it is without going through a clean up process. I have seen it had cad import as well as imported sub-catagory crap. Misc materials that will get transfered to the project. If I want to use them in the project, I will seriously spend *some* time to clean it up before handing off to the team.

    Depends on the extent of how many families are needed/requested by your clients, sometimes it is better off to creat your own version of Steelcase families.

    What I have done with manufacturer families (in this case, it is for Big Ass fan, we use their product a lot!) they offer free families but they are crap! I had to rebuild them to be parametric families to be useful. They have different size made a seperate family and rod is always a fix length. None of them will work for us the way we use them. So I re-build them, now have all the avaliable size in the same family and add shared parameter so that I can tag the above finish floor (AFF) Height in plan. The users love them and will use the families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parametric Snowman View Post
    (in this case, it is for Big Ass fan, we use their product a lot!) they offer free families but they are crap!
    Their Lunch & Learn presentations are a good time though! And they bring lots of goodies like whoopie cushions
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    Quote Originally Posted by cellophane View Post
    Their Lunch & Learn presentations are a good time though! And they bring lots of goodies like whoopie cushions
    Really!? They stopped by the other day and dropped off a cap with a Big "Big Ass Fan" logo, and also a coffee Mug. It sure is a lot nicer than a pen that the company rep usually pass around. I would like a whoopie cushions though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parametric Snowman View Post
    Really!? They stopped by the other day and dropped off a cap with a Big "Big Ass Fan" logo, and also a coffee Mug. It sure is a lot nicer than a pen that the company rep usually pass around. I would like a whoopie cushions though.
    They brought some when they did a presentation here a few months ago. We got a bunch of hats and some donkey stress toys with their logo as well. To be fair their headquarters are only an hour or so from here...

    If you haven't done a CEU I'd recommend it for the information as much as the toys
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    They are not on BIMobjects which tell us something about the content itself.

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    I wouldnt go that far. BIMObject isnt exactly the definitive gatekeeper of all quality content.
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