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    Ventilated facade - best practice?

    Curtain wall for panels, sure, but doesn't work good for so good aluminium frame, even multi walls approach. So i'm left with beams and wall reveals. Or maybe it'll be even easier to create bunch of line based families? In the end i need to have panels and frame elements layout with rough schedules (cost estimating for a client so he could choose supplier/contractor or even assemble it on their own) and details. Most likely there will be ton of a changes so i want it to be as flexible as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerb0z View Post
    Curtain wall for panels, sure, but doesn't work good for so good aluminium frame,
    Why, what's the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowyweston View Post
    Why, what's the problem?
    It likes to cut
    Hard to achieve something like that even with multi wall approach. Beams looks the best for that kind of work, only need find a way to make them follow curtain wall grid.. Ok it's possible to attach it's coarse lines to curtain wall grid (strangely only works at facade view, not in 3d).
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    Hello my friend. Did you manage to find a solution. I am looking about this for a long time. My problems is that there are some restrictions regarding the maximum spacing between the vertical profiles. This is something difficult to achieve. In case you have something new please let me know.
    Thank you

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    Yes, used curtain wall for panels (ended up with like 5 types), beams for profiles and face-based family for brackets. Then you can attach beam centerline to curtain wall grid lines, lock dimensions for intermediate profiles. Worked pretty good but structural part of the job was done later in autocad by an engineer and it wasn't necessary to show frame in the arch model. Probably will post some pics later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cerb0z View Post
    Yes, used curtain wall for panels (ended up with like 5 types), beams for profiles and face-based family for brackets. Then you can attach beam centerline to curtain wall grid lines, lock dimensions for intermediate profiles. Worked pretty good but structural part of the job was done later in autocad by an engineer and it wasn't necessary to show frame in the arch model. Probably will post some pics later.
    That would be nice. Do you think you can share it with us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiaccaelle View Post
    That would be nice. Do you think you can share it with us?
    Regards
    Here it is, but everything is in russian so be careful As i said it contains only panels, they have parametric gap and "window panels" has instance parametrs for window depth, corner panels should be modified as a whole for scheduling though.
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    I noticed your post earlier but didn't have time until now. Your facade looks nice. I did "window panels" in similar way as you did.
    But I was thinking of making separate curtain walls for horizontal and vertical frame instead of beams, e. g. vertical frame and rain screen panels in one curtain wall, horizontal frame and thermal insulation in another. I didn't have an opportunity to make it through a design development, but I think it would be more controllable than solitaire beams. What do you think?

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    That probably could work but mullions can act weird sometimes. When i first was discovering various strategies this method caused some problems (probably fixable). Definitely needs more testing because i think with some proper managing Revit could be a good tool for this type of jobs. Only need to find best solution as always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerb0z View Post
    Here it is, but everything is in russian so be careful As i said it contains only panels, they have parametric gap and "window panels" has instance parametrs for window depth, corner panels should be modified as a whole for scheduling though.
    Thank you very much. You are very kind

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