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    i'm am setting up views and sheets for a new project. For each plan view i am adjusting the crop regions. I have enabled annotation crop in PP. Some of the grid line heads seem to be adjusting in line with my annotation crop line and some don't. i want this to happen, but can't figure what it is or what i have to do to get the 'loose' one's re-associated. I have noticed this behaviour with levels in elevation as well.
    As a notorious politician once said "please explain".

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    I think you need to toggle the 2D-3D sign at the Grid Bubbles. Select a Grid Line, at the Buble Head side their should be a blue tag saying 2D or 3D. Switch this to 2D. Now it only changes in your current view (annotation mode sort of speak), and therefor respond to the Annotation Crop. When set to 3D it will change the extension in all views.

    BTW: same goes for Levels in Elevations.

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    look for the small piece of blue text when you have your grid selected. it will either say 2D, or 3D. 2D dosnt associate cross plans, and 3D does.

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    it's not a matter of aligning the grid bubbles with each other, and the 2d/3d switch won't show up if the bubble is outside the crop region (it automatically becomes 2d out there). i'm trying to associate the bubbles with my crop region, so when i adjust the crop region the grid bubbles will follow. it seems to be a default setting that they follow as some do follow before i touch them. As for the ones i adjust, i can't get them to re-stick to the annotation crop line (which dissapears when you un-select the crop region!)

    i've added a picture to describe what i mean -
    the solid blue line with concrete pattern below it is the crop region line
    the dotted blue line is the annotation crop line

    i want that number 11 bubble to automatically align/move to the annotation crop line when i move it. as i said above there seems to be some sort of align/move default behaviour as my 'untouched' bubbles work this way. How can i do this?
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    This can be done by strecting the boundry crop out past your extents of the grids 3D boundry. you will notice that the grids when the crop is out past it are 3D and when you move them back in they will change to 2D. However, it acts funky if you adjust your anno crop... it seems to like it being at 1" to crop the grids.

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    Thanks Alex, i think i know what you mean....i'll give it a go, i just want to un-funkify it!

    edit ok, i'm still a bit foggy on exactly how it works, but things are happening, it seems to only work (ie do what i'm asking) within a certain distance of the original placing of the bubble...or maybe that's the point i moved them to in 2d....thanks again for your help Alex.
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    Elton,
    Take a look at scope boxes to control the extent of your grids in plan and elevation. The only caveat to using this approach dips that the grids will extend 25mm past the crop boundary and not necessarily to the annotation crop location. It sure makes keeping track of your grids easier IMHO.

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    hey thanks Dimitri! i just quickly read the help file on creating scope boxes, i'll try it when i get home tonight.

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    Hey Elton,

    Couple of things about the scope boxes, Select all your gridlines then under the gridlines properties you can associate them with the scope box you've created. make sure that in a section or elevation view they extend past the levels like the bassement or Attic floor levels, otherwise your grids will dissapear in those views. then you can turn on the scope box for your plan and section views. then all you have to do is adjust where you want the grid bubbles to go!

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    Something to note on this, for each view grids will either be set to 3D extents and either at their maximum extents if within the crop region or cropped by the crop region, then once you have clicked on the little 3d/2d setting the grid is now only controlled by the 2D control an will not follow the crop anymore

    A way to fix this is to select the grid and right click and choose "reset to crop", there is a bug with this in that you cannot select multiple grids and reset to crop, it only works per grid

    The annotation crop has no effect on grids, grids are only cropped by the crop region


    The other really useful control with grids is propagate extents, if you select grids in a plan you are happy with, you will then get the conceptual panel option of "propagate extents" this will give you a list of views that you can apply the grid modifications from the current view to other views

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