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    Nested Family Types in Schedules

    I'm trying to incorporate some more functionality into our door families and door schedules. Right now I'm trying to set it up so that there is a Parent family and within the parent family are 3 nested families. The nested families are the door panel, door frame, and hardware set. I have sets of shared parameters and it all seems to be graphically working as expected. The issue that I am having is when it comes to scheduling. I can't seem to get a type mark to transfer through the parent family and into the schedule. Here is an example of how I'd like the schedule to read

    Mark = 100
    Panel Type = A
    Frame Type = F
    Hardware Set = 3
    Width
    Height
    etc etc etc

    So far all I can figure out is getting the Panel Type, Frame Type, and Hardware set to be Instance Parameters, which is not ideal since it will be too easy for a user to mislabel a door/frame type. It also seems to remove some of the BIM functionality from the program and seems regressive.

    Any tips would be appreciated.

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    All you can get is Family Name : Type Name. You need to name the families what you want the type mark to be. You cant transfer data to the parent family, only down to the children, as youve discovered.

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    Instance is exactly how I have my panels, frames and hardware. Height and width are handled by type as well as use. So while you can swap out a wood frame for a hollow metal frame, you still need to update the door type to cover the use. It's for schedule purposes and a workflow that suits our projects. I also made it so the frame thickness (2" for HM and 3/4" for wood) are controlled by the door type to give a visual cue that the door type needs to be addressed. To help with that I've made filters readily available.

    I trust my setup to work even if the model builder is taking oxycotin. That stuff makes you dumber than a bag of hammers and I'd still use instance parameters as described.

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    Have you consider key schedule? Check this website for info. It will help you out to simplify your workflow. I used to do complex family for that and it is way too complex for user to operate. Then we use schedule key and it help simplify the schedule.

    https://archsmarter.com/revit-key-schedules/
    Last edited by scourdx; April 15th, 2019 at 04:23 PM.

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    I've used key schedules in the past, but I'm not sure how they would help out in this instance. Most of our projects have a high degree of variability with doors, frames and hardware, specifically different door types within different frame types.

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    You can set conditions where you can have service door on GWB, service door on concrete, common door, privacy door, mechanical door and many others. It is based on conditions where you can control what type of value it will get. Once you established these preset, you can copy and paste them from project to project. It makes it easier for user to use the same conditions without retyping or trying modify to suit specific project. It will keep your schedule consistence from project to project. Screenshot below shows how I use the key schedule with high level of variation. If I need more conditions, I simply add to key schedule. This way I don't need to create different door family for specific conditions.

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    Last edited by scourdx; April 15th, 2019 at 11:58 PM.

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