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    Rough opening for storefront and curtain wall

    Can anyone tell if you can custom storefront and curtain wall with a rough opening gap that you can adjust? Currently storefront and curtain wall are model from frame to frame no rough opening spaces.

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    Yes, you can. Ours are built that way.
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    Do you build them into your million profile or is it it’s own mullion?

    I believe Dave Jones does the latter. I’ve been doing the former but am thinking about switching it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMcDowellJr View Post
    Do you build them into your million profile or is it it’s own mullion?

    I believe Dave Jones does the latter. I’ve been doing the former but am thinking about switching it up.

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    Actually, I use a separate GM family with parametric joint sizes on four sides and width and height dimensions. Since my building backgrounds are always Arch model links I don't want to dimension to linked geometry so my RO frame provides geometry in my model to dimension to. I also often run into situations where the caulking joint sizes at the top, bottom, and sides will be different due to seismic requirements, story drift, etc.

    The GM family consists of lines and overlaid hidden lines and the lines have a yes/no parameter to turn them off. This way I can hide the RO frame but not lose the dimensions associated with it.

    Oh, and all of this is past tense as I am now retired
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMcDowellJr View Post
    Do you build them into your million profile or is it it’s own mullion?

    I believe Dave Jones does the latter. I’ve been doing the former but am thinking about switching it up.


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    Mine are part of the Mullion (But parametric, so if you need different values its just another mullion type) so it doesnt need another mullion, and you can dimension to mine as well.

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    So you custom end mullion to show rough opening gap. How did you do that. Any video or instruction how to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    Oh, and all of this is past tense as I am now retired
    More time to prep for curtain wall classes at BiLT and AU...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoangtin View Post
    So you custom end mullion to show rough opening gap. How did you do that. Any video or instruction how to do that.
    I do mine similar to Aaron's. You end up with a about 11 profiles to cover off different conditions you'd encounter doing curtain wall.

    If you look at the image, you can see that the profile extends to include the rough opening. Then there is a detail component to provide the innards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheinaranta View Post
    I do mine similar to Aaron's. You end up with a about 11 profiles to cover off different conditions you'd encounter doing curtain wall.

    If you look at the image, you can see that the profile extends to include the rough opening. Then there is a detail component to provide the innards.
    This. Except my Profile lines are also split at that reference plane, which create an edge you can Dimension to, should you want to. The Detail Component even has a masking region that protrudes proud of the surace of the wall, to hide the Mullions modeled edge.
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    Mine goes a step further showing the sealants as half ellipses that you can push into the frame should you desire.

    Kinda nutty... probably not worth it.


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