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    Curtain Wall Doors

    What approach are you all using for doors in a curtain wall? I recall when I last did it I used a curtain panel but my concern is that achieving the correct size of the door and still having the adjacent mullion at the correct spacing. I've got manufacturers literature which shows additional extrusions which fits in the mullion/transom pocket at the jambs/head of the door so I'd be looking to replicate that via some basic geometry.

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    Our Doors are Curtain Panel Doors that have nested Frames withing them, where the frames are unhosted door families. There is an "empty" frame type for storefront style doors where the mullion IS the frame, and there is a SubFrame type, where the Door (Curtain panel) component actually places a frame within the mullions.

    In both cases, our doors use the instance parameter for the door size, and then two tattle-tale reporting parameters tell the user if the opening in the Revit Curtain Wall is the wrong size. What frame they have selected affects the size requirements, naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Our Doors are Curtain Panel Doors that have nested Frames withing them, where the frames are unhosted door families. There is an "empty" frame type for storefront style doors where the mullion IS the frame, and there is a SubFrame type, where the Door (Curtain panel) component actually places a frame within the mullions.
    I think I get what you are doing. Is this approach used in the last downloadable doors?

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    In both cases, our doors use the instance parameter for the door size, and then two tattle-tale reporting parameters tell the user if the opening in the Revit Curtain Wall is the wrong size. What frame they have selected affects the size requirements, naturally.
    Would that be 2 width parameters i.e. Curtain Panel Width and Nested Frame Width?

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    Yay double posts again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLothian View Post
    I think I get what you are doing. Is this approach used in the last downloadable doors?

    Would that be 2 width parameters i.e. Curtain Panel Width and Nested Frame Width?
    I honestly don't remember, but I believe it's that way in the older doors that are posted here.

    There are a bunch of different width parameters, and a formula driving the actual width parameter.

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    The 2015 version is that way. Super helpful to be able to right size the doors to the available opening...


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    LOL! Thanks for checking. I havent opened those super old ones in (literally) over a year. I couldnt remember when i built that in.

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    The beauty of these doors(or any done this way) is that it makes editing the cw mullion spacing very easy and your door schedule works from day one. Basically you swap the cw panel out with the door family with the secondary frame. tell the door what size you want. Now you have the secondary frame as the ref. to move your CW mullions too. Just unpin them in elevation, grab the grid, then move from edge of mullion to edge of CW door frame. Boom, dead on right dimension, repeat for head or Jamb as necessary.
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    It's a thing of beauty. I wouldn't go back to letting the door drive the mullion spacing ever again.
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    Ok, so Im not sure if this is the correct thread.

    Our old door family was wall hosted (door on right) but would cut itself out of nested curtain wall. Can anyone tell me how this is possible? I would like all my doors to be capable of doing this.

    Cheers,

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