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    Wondering if anyone knows of a good site (or provide samples) to download lots of typical system families (mainly focused on the ceilings, floors, & roofs) no matter the layer sizes, but as long as it's composed correctly, & no matter the materials applied. As long as it's a "typical" condition in the great USofA. Wondering to see if the small collection I have is adequate for "typical" conditions to start out with, or more out there that I haven't encountered for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cftrevizo View Post
    Wondering if anyone knows of a good site (or provide samples) to download lots of typical system families (mainly focused on the ceilings, floors, & roofs) no matter the layer sizes, but as long as it's composed correctly, & no matter the materials applied. As long as it's a "typical" condition in the great USofA. Wondering to see if the small collection I have is adequate for "typical" conditions to start out with, or more out there that I haven't encountered for whatever reason.
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    My current list of Partitions for "typical USA conditions" currently counts:

    58 interior partitions.
    26 exterior wall types.

    Keep in mind, the number of them is going to depend on things like: Do you do Insulation by wall type or instance, fire rating by wall type or instance, wall height by wall type or instance, and do you build partitions as entire assemblies with finishes, or finishes separately.

    My answers go:

    1. By instance
    2. By Instance
    3. By Instance
    4. Separately

    That means the counts of wall types above is just about the smallest number of partitions that account for Wood Framed, Metal Framed, CH Stud Framed (Shaft), CIP Concrete, and CMU Block walls out there, with a variety of sheathing conditions and separate finish walls.

    In the past, i have modified this system for customers that wanted (for instance) Fire Rating to be "By Type." Similarly, ive modified them to be Wall Height by type, and insulation by type. That made the SAME partitions counted above, amount to over 400 wall types.

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    Attached is a sample of the source file I'm working on. I'll be using this file to then hook it up with my CTC BIM List app.
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    Here is a site that lets you make the system families in a web browser interface.
    https://bimsmith.com/Home/Index

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    Yeah. Just be prepared to have 15 tons of manufacturers **** stuffed in to your models with any of the site like that. BIMObject, BIMSmith, whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    Yeah. Just be prepared to have 15 tons of manufacturers **** stuffed in to your models with any of the site like that. BIMObject, BIMSmith, whatever.
    LOL! agreed. JUST MAKE IT YOURSELF! It's not that hard and it makes you really cool with your Revit friends ;-P

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    [QUOTE=Twiceroadsfool;182609]
    Similarly, ive modified them to be Wall Height by type, and insulation by type. /QUOTE]

    How does that work? I mean I know how to do it, but there's nothing that would prevent the wall from being radically different than the type.


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    Correct. Whixh is why I think it's stupid. It's a user action to change an instance parameter, and a user interaction. To change a wall type. So I think it's completely pointless.

    Was entirely manual, and- imho- a waste. Even if you automated it somehow, I don't even see a point. No value added at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiceroadsfool View Post
    My current list of Partitions for "typical USA conditions" currently counts:

    58 interior partitions.
    26 exterior wall types.
    Question:

    Do you have these (all) "prototyped" somewhere?

    I'm increasingly drawn toward a "twin template" workflow; with one "the real one", as in the actual .rte, pre-populated with "most common" conditions; and a second, "reference template" (actually a model, perhaps even a workshared one, potentially-always-linked into the aforementioned "real" template) where all these permutations, w/ all their complimentary views, inc. 3D cut-aways, are modelled - and "reference'able" (as a link) so not adding additional weight to the "active" (project) model.

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