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    Revit 2017 Reference Plane Subcategories

    With the new feature of being able to create sub categories for Reference planes I thought maybe a discussion should be started on how are users going to be using this and should we be considering a standard or basis to be consistent.

    I was getting ready to update my family templates and was getting ready to create a subcategory for the "Is Reference" types.

    I was thinking of naming it accordingly:
    CL
    Not
    Named
    Strong
    Weak

    I was then thinking should I spell it out further:
    CenterLine Reference
    Not A Reference
    Named Reference
    Strong Reference
    Weak Reference

    What are your thoughts on the topic? I am starting this such that if we start to share families (I know it will happen anyway) we may minimize the subcategories when loaded into projects

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD Mackey View Post
    I was then thinking should I spell it out further:
    CenterLine Reference
    Not A Reference
    Named Reference
    Strong Reference
    Weak Reference
    I would lean towards this format over abbreviations.

    If you go this route would you take into account Top, Bottom, Right & Left references as well? I don't have 2017 installed yet at work so i can't see how they function in relation to sub cats.

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    I was thinking all named planes would go to the Names Reference subcategory (Right, Left, Top, Bottom, Front, Back) and CL named planes would go to Center Line References.

    My fear with this feature is manufacturers are going to start creating "Manufacturer Name" Plane subcategories and it is going to be crazy in a project environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BD Mackey View Post
    My fear with this feature is manufacturers are going to start creating "Manufacturer Name" Plane subcategories and it is going to be crazy in a project environment.
    I don't think you'll have to worry too much about that. There's not much benefit to be gained. Besides, it's not like content created by the manufacturers themselves often use reference planes anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew K View Post
    Besides, it's not like content created by the manufacturers themselves often use reference planes anyway.
    I agree with that statement but if they think it will be a way to "Watermark" or embed their name in the file more then I can imagine it taking off.

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    From a generic perspective that is a great start. Thoughts out loud here, I'm wondering if - for my use anyways - Subcategories could be broken down in a more pragmatic manner, such as "Clearance" or "Unit" or "Duct Openings" and the like. This may be a better fit for my Family Templates when creating Mechanical Equipment Families, which is my realm.

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    I think "Clearance" or similar is a subcategory that will probably work its way into a lot of users' families. Otherwise I agree with the non-abbreviated names. Happy for named reference planes to sit in a "Named" subcategory too. Such a shame these are brought into the project environment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exar Kun View Post
    .... Such a shame these are brought into the project environment....(
    A shame indeed: I don't understand why this is the case: If you turn off the subcategory thin the project and the refplane is a "Strong reference" it still acts like the legacy version. So whats the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exar Kun View Post
    Such a shame these are brought into the project environment
    Why a shame?

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    Because its pointless.

    RP's in a project need to be classified, so we can View filter them on and off while working.

    RP's in a component need to be classified, so we can view filter them on and off while editing content. But RP's "from content" arent VISIBLE in the project environment at all. You snap to them and dimension to them, but never see them. Furthermore, they are classified completely differently. So passing the "object styles" through, in this case, is not only a waste... its a negative.

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