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    I think no matter how seasoned one gets in Revit, the exciting thing is that there always seems to be more to learn. It's just awesome and very generous of you to share this with us! I've followed the prior door threads and I've got to say it was useful in structuring an approach even though we all may have different requirements for our door families.

    Thanks again!

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    Hey Aaron,

    So you might have changed this on your last version....but the ones I have (2010&2011 dates)...have parameters like Frame: Type<doors> and Panel: Type<doors>
    I used the same format for my doors for scheduling purposes. Just wondering why you decided to change this? I thought it was a great way to show what shows in the schedule vs what doesn't.

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    There was some discussion on the parameter name at some point - although at the moment I can't find it

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    I got rid of all Colons in parameter names, as of last year. Colons are only available as valid characters if the parameters are Shared Parameters, and i just dont like having different rules that i have to explain at different times. So i ditched the colons when i rebuilt the doors for V3... Frame Type <Door> and Panel 1 Type <Door> and Panel 2 Type <Door> (where applicable) still exist. They are just newer shared parameters.

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    V5 is live for testing in our first project using them.

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    I just changed jobs and had been using 2015 at my previous employer but am now stepping back to 2014. Luckily, I had saved the 2014 versions and a co-worker sent them on to me. I look forward to when the new place upgrades to check out the new doors! Thanks as always for sharing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqueenan View Post
    I just changed jobs and had been using 2015 at my previous employer but am now stepping back to 2014. Luckily, I had saved the 2014 versions and a co-worker sent them on to me. I look forward to when the new place upgrades to check out the new doors! Thanks as always for sharing them.
    I'm stuck in 2014 land too...I just downloaded 2015 and run in viewer mode to check out what was done with the doors. So far I haven't had time to tweak my 2014 versions accordingly. (I really want the 3D swing to work on mine).

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    Hi Aaron,

    First of all, thank you for sharing these door families.
    I've almost finished producing a set of doors families for my company, and then I've decided do it all again based on the principles of your families.
    I have a couple of questions though. I've always used type parameters in my doors, for the sizes. Mainly because of the ease of selection of the particular type of door if there are any changes required. What are the benefits of using instances other than personal preference? I guess you can easier manipulate the doors in the schedules?
    Also, I've noticed that in your doors, the frames are picked up by the door tag. Is that intended behavior? Or it's just because the frame is shared, and you can't do anything about it, other than hide in plan and create a separate nested detail component to show the profile?

    Kind Regards,

    Maciej
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    Hey Maciej-

    Thanks for the kind words.

    the instance versus Type thing is indeed a personal preference. When i was in NY at my old firm, half the firm worked in ADT and half of us worked in Revit. Even though i loved revit to death, i found myself envying how much faster it was to place doors and type in sizes, in ADT. And you didnt end up with door types like "3-0 x 7-4 with A-1 frame and FG panels." Then i talked to another firm (Beck, lol) that was already doing them as Instance, before i got here. And i got to thinking: Never in my career have i realized i wanted to make an edit to "every door that is 2-8 wide in a project," because size isnt always the last classifer in doors. So i figured id give it a whirl and try instance. Its just SO much nicer.

    Tagging in Plan: We have a Filter thats in all of our view templates. Its there, but set to Visible all of the time. When they want to tag the doors, they go in temp view properties, uncheck that filter, hit Tag All not tagged Doors (it hides the frames and panels), and then they restore view props. Works like a champ.

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    Hi Aaron,

    Thanks for your response. I think I'll give the instance parameters a try. At the moment most of the staff in the office is with zero Revit experience so they don't have any "bad habits" yet (actually no habits whatsoever) and will do what I'll say

    Tagging in Plan: We have a Filter thats in all of our view templates. Its there, but set to Visible all of the time. When they want to tag the doors, they go in temp view properties, uncheck that filter, hit Tag All not tagged Doors (it hides the frames and panels), and then they restore view props. Works like a champ.
    Nice and simple. I'll give that a go. I wander why I haven't figure it out in the first place, I must be thinking about the fast approaching holiday season too much

    Thanks again,

    Maciej

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