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    revit 2013 back to 2012

    Hi there,

    it came to me that i am unable to save back to an early version of revit.
    This means when i work with a company using revit 2012 it is not possible to exchange my model, only by .ifc format.

    Only solution i can think off, is to keep my template and families up tot date in both versions.
    This doubles the work since i am still in working progress with my companies standard.

    Then when i get a revit model to work with, i first have to ask witch version they used for it, and work my plan in that same version.

    If there is a better way, or suggestions on this please let me know.

    I mostly want only to carry on in revit 2013.

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    It's true. You need to find out the version of Revit that all the consultants are using. All disciplines need to use the same version because of the "no-backwards-compatiblity" thing.

    If the company you are working with is on subscription, they should have access to 2013 and you could suggest to them that they upgrade (though all consultants they are working with on this particular project would also need to have access to 2013.)

    If the company you are working with does not have access to 2013, yet, you will need to drop back and work in 2012.

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    You can kind of do it but it's a hack at best: What Revit Wants: Downgrade Revit projects and families to previous version

    Otherwise you need to make sure you and your consultants are all on the same version as Leanne mentioned.

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    In my experience, the unfortunate reality is that anyone doing consulting simply has to maintain installs of the current version plus one or two versions back, and everyone works on the version the prime contract is using. My experience is also that consultants have even more desire to be on the current version than the Architects, so any Architect/Prime playing team ball should be thinking about moving projects forward as soon as is practicable, even if they see no direct benefit themselves.

    All that said, that is a very American experience, and I can't say how contracts work in the Netherlands. The idea that everyone on the team needs to be on the same version, and the entire project team needs to actively discuss upgrade plans and timelines starting from the very beginning of the project, still holds. Just not sure how the politics of that reality play out.

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    ok thanks for the imput.

    I think im going to move on to 2013, and only develop my template and families for 2013, as i prefer to work in the latest version.
    I can write all the things down in a word document that i have improved or change later on in my template and families.
    When it occurs that i need to work in 2012 version, then at least i know wat is missing in the 2012 template, or isn't improved.
    Or when i have some time (not seeing that happening in a long time), i can then work on the 2012 library, starting with my word document.

    Bross

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    This is a really anoying thing about revit, its such a pain in the proverbials...To get round this we have our families saved as 2012..because you can open them in 2013 as a one time update(upwards versions). however if you save over them by opening the family editor by accident you cant then re-open them in 2012...so hopely if you do this the only way then is to hope a back up file is still saved as a 2012 version ...frustrating though

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    This is a really anoying thing about revit, its such a pain in the proverbials...To get round this we have our families saved as 2012..because you can open them in 2013 as a one time update(upwards versions). however if you save over them by opening the family editor by accident you cant then re-open them in 2012...so hopely if you do this the only way then is to hope a back up file is still saved as a 2012 version ...frustrating though
    annoying? It's the rules and for good reason, as has been debated in this forum way more than necessary. Make a copy of all of your families in a new folder structure for Revit 2013 (or soon, 2014) and update the copies to the 2013 version (or soon to be 2014). Then you have copies of all of your families for each version. This is never going to change so get over being annoyed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    ... however if you save over them by opening the family editor by accident you cant then re-open them in 2012...
    Opening a family "by accident" with a newer version does not save a family from a previous version to the current version. The newer version opens the family, yes, and you will see the sign that says "this is a one-time upgrade process", etc., but unless you intentionally save it in the newer version, the family will continue to be in the format of the previous version.

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    As a rule of thumb all families in the library should be 'read-only' which will stop you from having users accidentally save over them.

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    Last edited by jh75; March 28th, 2013 at 05:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jh75 View Post
    As a rule of thumb all families in the library should be 'read-only' which will stop you from having users accidentally save over them.

    jh
    Our folder structure is setup this way. Only myself and one other person can save over families there. Ive had WAY to many people just save what they edit and it overrides our standard families and then I have to go back and redo them or get a backup.

    Quote Originally Posted by stefan View Post
    This is a really anoying thing about revit, its such a pain in the proverbials...To get round this we have our families saved as 2012..because you can open them in 2013 as a one time update(upwards versions). however if you save over them by opening the family editor by accident you cant then re-open them in 2012...so hopely if you do this the only way then is to hope a back up file is still saved as a 2012 version ...frustrating though
    We are about 50/50 on 2012 and 2013 projects at the moment. All of our families are currently saved as 2012 so that they can be used in 2012 or 2013. Hell we still have some 2011 projects coming back for CA, but I think those have been upgraded to 2012. Thats my suggestion. Save as older version so they can be used in older version if the need arises.

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