Thread: Revit vs. Archicad - The list

Hi forum

Following the last couple of days with Archicad vs. Revit related topics, this will fit right in

A Archicad user postet a link, on a Revit/Archicad/BIM forum, to this list written by a Archicad/Revit user, listing the pros/cons of Archicad and Revit.

First problem I see, is the list is clearly written by someone who preferres Archicad and have used it 13 years before learning Revit.
Of cause some of the arguments on the list are valid, but others are complete BS.

Any formerly Archicad users that share the same points as this list? And is Archicad really that superior compared to Revit?

Anyway, any thoughts generally on the making of the list and the things he points out?

Cheers

Bias is bias. Most of the list is slanted, and silly. FWIW, ive used just about every BIM platform out there. I dont prefer Revit because its what i know and use, its what i know and use because i Prefer it.

Im not even sure ArchiCAD would be second if i got out of Revit, frankly.

Well damn. After reading that, I guess I chose the wrong program!

According to him, Revit does nothing and Archicad can make you a pizza and pour you a beer while it's rendering.

Yeah....and the list is about that long for all the stuff that Revit can do that ArchiCAD can't...and quite a few of those are obsolete with the release of 2012.

I could answer all those comments....but you will find a bunch of them already over at AUGI..

In short, ArchiCAD is great for architects/designers building houses....for what I work on now I would shoot myself if I was given ArchiCAD to do it... Also AC is great for folks working on Log Homes... Pic is small, but I was working on this house before I left the company (they couldn't figure out why I left...probably something about my paycheck bouncing...twice)....The 3D view was 3 different models linked into one and rendered... Nothing fancy, but it shows AC is pretty decent..but I was limited to just what came out of the box which drove the architect I worked for crazy.. Tossed in a closeup too... This site I spent lots of time on...but the owner decided that houses from the local builder supply was cheaper...even though he paid us to design all of this to CD level.

Originally Posted by dzatto

Archicad can make you a pizza and pour you a beer while it's rendering.

Actually, I used to go pour myself a beer while waiting for AC to render....

While the list seems to be very bias, Wes has posted a new list with comments on each items. The new list shows clearly that the author doesn't have much experience with Revit. At the same token, Wes agrees with the author on most of the points, which would convince any newcomer to favor Archicad, solely based on the list.

You can use this list as a wish list for future releases of Revit.

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/..._by_wm_199.pdf

Yeah, pretty much what Wes said...

I have a demo version of AC15...it has improved quite a bit the past few releases...You can create publish sets and assign whether its pdf, dwg...etc.. But technically you can do this in Revit too thanks to XRev Transmit (I so need to buy this add-in....Chris, I am still trying to push getting it!)

Right... Why did I read this again? Oh wait, always nice to chuckle about some dude thinking that 3 years CO-using Revit makes him an Expert. And I do really hate these kind of "honest" comparisons: they always make one of the two look like garbage and the other flawless. Completely useless crap.

I'm not going to redo Wes' comments. I would like to add that he's being too kind in my book.

Also, I don't know a lot about Archicad, but I do know these two:

- Did they fix the non-referencing dimensioning already? About a year ago an Archicad-adept (who is now seriously working on his Revit skills) told me Archicad dimensions are not live references. Aka: dimension stuff, change the geometry, manually update the dimensions
- Did they fix the need to be a programmer if you want to do a window or door that happens to NOT be in the o-so-easy window setup module?

Definately a one sided appraisal. I don't think it's worth you Revit faithful getting upset over.

But it's certainly good to get an understanding of where the limitations lie. Certainly helps when planning projects and choosing the software best suited for the type of project.

PS. We are a Bentley / Revit company. We use Revit for the smaller, simplier projects. Bentley for the larger, challenging projects. It appears our workflow choice is a good one when it comes to Ransoms and Wes agreement on certain topics.

Originally Posted by mdradvies

- Did they fix the non-referencing dimensioning already? About a year ago an Archicad-adept (who is now seriously working on his Revit skills) told me Archicad dimensions are not live references. Aka: dimension stuff, change the geometry, manually update the dimensions
- Did they fix the need to be a programmer if you want to do a window or door that happens to NOT be in the o-so-easy window setup module?

I HATE AC's dimensioning.....thanks for bringing that up....if you don't get the cursor just right it won't update if you move a wall...its not like you can TAB to make sure...the cursor changes when you get right constraint.
As for the custom window/doors.....Revit API makes more sense to me....

What's funny from a Salesperson's point of view...I went to the sales pitch/demo for AC 8.0...now this was before Revit...the closest program to AC at the time was Architectural Desktop and they were pitching that AD would be gone in the next 2-3 years! Hmmm....Think its been 7 or 8 years since....AD is still around and now something even better has emerged...

I should create a Revit vs ArchiCAD comparison....nah....I'm too busy having the ability setting up my templates/family components to do what I want them to do, not what someone gives me 100 settings to build one lousy window or door that still doesn't look the way I want it to be....