I probably already know the answer, but as tired as I ama t the moment, I'm having brain-farts like crazy. When looking at the "Callout Head" Family, it seems ou can only add one reference...and it's only a "TYPE" reference. I've been trying to add "Family Types" for "sim", "Opp", and "sim/opp", which I did successfully, and even got the yes/no params for above to works with said Types...even added 3 Labels, with seperate Lable Types, one for each, and hooked them to the params. Loaded into the project, All family types came into the Browser, then wnet to the Callout Detail Type, to setup the Families, and in the Type Editor DB, where it has the parameter 'CALLOU TAG', the "VALUE" box only shows "Callout Head w 1/8" Corner Radius". Is there no way to create new "values" for the different Family Types just created? This is one of only a couple of things about RAC I'm a litle miffed about.