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    Sloped glazing in sloped wall

    I'm trying to place a sloped skylight in a sloped stair bulkhead. The sloped bulkhead wall was created by creating a mass of the bulkhead and then selecting the sloped face. I then want to put a "sloped glazing" skylight in that wall.

    My problems are thus:
    --The sloped glazing is a roof type and will therefore not let me "automatically embed" the wall (actually a roof) in my exterior wall.
    --I have tried joining the skylight and the wall, but it only joins for the thickness of the skylight assembly, which is thinner than my exterior wall assembly.
    --I cannot edit the profile of my exterior wall to allow for an opening in which to place my skylight because the wall is hosted by face.

    Do I have to edit the mass which is hosting the exterior wall to include a void in it's face that is the same size as my skylight opening?

    Sloped glazing in sloped wall-roof-skylight.jpg
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    That's how I would do it. But, I don't use massing much. There could be a better way...maybe. Anyone?

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    Yeah I don't use massing much either and I'm just starting to use it on this project...therefore I can't figure out how to make a void in my mass.

    See below, I want that middle box on the slope of the mass to be the hole for my skylight.

    Sloped glazing in sloped wall-my-mass.jpg

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    What about a curtainwall by face?

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    I'm going off memory from when I had to do it (the model is at the house, not work, so I can't see how I did it) Draw the outline. Select the lines. Then, in the ribbon, Create Form>Void. I think that's the procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cellophane View Post
    What about a curtainwall by face?
    Curtain wall by face dont work actually. Has to be a curtain system.

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    Roof by face will allow 'sloped glazing' as an option, but you can't turn sloped glazing into a wall type like you can with curtain wall. You can however create/load a facebased skylight family....

    If you need it to be sloped glazing or a curtain panel you can
    1 In the massing editor, set you workplane to the face you want the glazing on.
    2 Draw a rectangle
    3 add dimensions/parameters to control the location of the 'skylight'
    4 select the shape and Create Form>Void Form, lock the profiles.
    5 Set the depth parameter that appears to 5mm (or what ever you want except 0) or add a depth parameter
    6 finish the mass
    7 create Wall by Face, which will omit the recess
    8 for the glazed area, use Roof By Face and select Sloped Glazing or use the Curtain System tool.

    This allows you to select the mass and change the parameters of the recess. You may want to add Offset parameters to to control position. If you need to change things, modify your params, then select each object and 'Update to face'

    Some glaring issues with this method, is that 'Wall by Face' will have horizontal cuts (unless you use the sides of the recess as walls also which resolves in some freaky geometry). If you use 'Roof By Face' your cuts will be vertical...

    Good luck!!
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    I just tried editing my mass to provide a "hole" in it and while it worked, the hole is horizontal, not oriented to the angle of the wall.

    Sloped glazing in sloped wall-parallel-wall.jpg

    Any thoughts?

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    Edit the mass. Go to a 3D view. Orient the view to a plane and select the slanted face. Then draw the void as a rectangle.

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    I have drawn the void on the slanted face of the mass, and when I create the void it shows up as properly oriented, it's just that when I apply the wall to the face it doesn't work...it's like the wall is only reading the 2D face of the mass and not the angled 3D extrusion.

    Sloped glazing in sloped wall-my-mass1.jpg

    Notice at the bottom of the window there is a section of wall which sticks out above the void edge in the blue mass. I need to get rid of that.

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