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    Question Base Cabinet not showing through extrusion countertop

    Hello all,
    First time user of the forum. I have a problem that I hope someone can help with or at least someone can tell me that it just doesn't work that way.

    I have a typical base cabinet family. I put a model-in-place extrusion as a counter top on the top of it due to the shape that I wanted it was just easier that way. I cannot get the base cabinet dashed lines to show up through the extrusion like they will through any generically created counter top family. Why? Is this something that just isn't done? Do I just need to create a new counter top family starting with one of the generic counter top family's already out there?

    Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

    Ric

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    I gave up on the silly Symbolic Line thing that weve all been doing for countertops for years. Now, i have a Filter set up in every floor plan, that take my countertop families and sets them to 80 percent transparent. Then the object styles of my base cabinets are set to be dashed lines.

    Sure, it looks weird if i have base cabinets and no countertop.... But as a general rule i try not to do that....
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    I think the main reason for showing the base cabs under the countertop in plan is because we didn't hand draw every single elevation, so the ONLY place the full extent of the base cabinets was documented was the plan. Now I say always do every single elevation, and schedule lengths and counts, so suddenly the need is less.

    Now what would rock is if that filter could also make the Base Cabs Course LOD. Then model for a simple footprint in Course and the graphics would look great. Filters that make Uppers, lowers and all things NIC Course LOD so the other graphic overrides work better would just be the shizzNIT! So would making out with Michelle Rodriguez, which is just slightly more likely, so I'll shut up and go back to work now.

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    I've always wondered why vie LOD wasn't more controllable. Then I realize... it's Revit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon Price View Post
    I think the main reason for showing the base cabs under the countertop in plan is because we didn't hand draw every single elevation...Gordon
    Not really Gordon....

    The reasons are many-fold.

    AND it's not just the cabinets below that are important to see in plan, it's also the toe-kick recess (if there is one) or base, etc...

    The furthest back piece that hits the floor is ultimately needed, even in plan... if you want to lay out flooring, patterns, stone, etc properly...

    Some things in a room want to center on the Countertop, others on the Cabinets and still other to the Toe-Kicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBZ View Post
    Not really Gordon....

    The reasons are many-fold.

    Some things in a room want to center on the Countertop, others on the Cabinets and still other to the Toe-Kicks.
    Good point.

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    ;-) Thanks!

    Right?! "it's" not purely about the objects but relationships, like nature...which objects, which relationships, when... "It" comes down to choice. The more info the more informed a choice can be attempted. Apparent Symmetry or not, we must first see before we can choose ;-)

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    Ours still dont show the toe-kick lines, since those are underneath the cabinet. But this is how ours show now, which i really like, as there are three disntinct lineweights (View was screen capped with thin lines):

    Base cabinets (under counter, and under uppers)- lightest
    Base cabinets (under counter)- second lightest
    Counter edge and uppers- Darkest.

    And while some people still hate the busy-ness of it, im working on convincing them that its better t see all of the lines of the carcass in the plans,and not just single outlines. It makes a better informed decision about what pieces are going next to what peices, espeically when you put an ADA Sink unit on the end, and you want a full panel cabinet *look.*

    EDIT: Dont judge, either. This images was before they put the right values in the countertop, for the angled condition with the filler.
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